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Overunity Machines Forum



Working SMOT ramp from Tom Ferko ?

Started by hartiberlin, July 12, 2006, 10:42:03 AM

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hartiberlin

Hi Omnibus,
please cool down.
Please let TOM continue in his search,
it is always very important to try these experiments.

Maybe he will find a different or simular solution that really works.

So far as I understand it now, he is looking for an "always falling weight"
which pushed his turntable forward and thus turning.

Let us see, if he can find that.
If he will get the force vectors right,maybe he will succeed or find
a different new clue ?

We have enough bandwidth to host more nice movie clips ! ;)

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

magnetman12003

Hi Stefan,

You hit the nail on the head.  This setup always has a magnet arm weight leaning, falling, dropping, or whatever else you might call it.  Its weight is directed onto a turntable magnet which of course is free to turn the way you wish by how you setup the ratchet

The selection of clockwise or counterclockwise by the one way ratchet will be your direction of choice.

Keep in mind that when the axle magnet arm weight pushes onto the turntable magnet there is a equal and opposite push force the other way.  The arm is blocked from going that way because of the ratchets one way mechanical setup.  Pinching the setup ratchet head prevents the axle from rotating the way you dont want it to spin. It has to go the other way--- Why?

Why does the magnet arm just push the rotating turntable magnet forward out of its path and fall down?

The other large magnet on the turntable that was not pushed by the magnet arm always comes from behind and keeps repelling the magnet arm to constantly lean on the turntable magnet in front of it. Remember the magnet arm can only move ONE WAY. All the magnets repell one another.  Note:The magnets never touch each other because of the repelling forces between them.

Sort of like a dog chasing his own tail but in this case gravity is doing most of the work. Look at the last video once more and you see 10 pounds of magnets spinning with a two finger touch.  Sure its not a self runner yet but gravity and magnetic forces are at work to make that TORQUE spin. Not me. I am not performing a magic trick using two finger power.

Believe me its not finger power doing it or wrist motion.  Take a pointed stick and place it dead center between two turntable magnets like you saw in the video and tilt it.  Nothing happens.  Now make the drive device and FEEL what happens.

The biggest hurdle yet to overcome is the tilted axle shaft aspect.  Who has an idea on how to use a VERTICAL axle with a single magnet arm mounted that does the "LEAN ON THE TURNTABLE MAGNET TRICK" ?   You hold the keys to a self runner.

It will be real easy to pin the ratchet head in a vertical position and watch the motor concept work.   I am wide open for any and all good ideas and hope someone else will try to construct this device and make it into a self runner.  He will most certainly find it a lot of fun no matter what happens.   

I already cranked the insides out of a cheap ratchet head I was using.  The ratchet screams while the device is operating.  Will by a quality S&K fine tooth thumbwheel next.

Tom




magnetman12003

Hi Guys,
I am going on vacation for a week but here is a untried thought I had for a VERTICAL axle setup that might work.

The yellow frame with four small magnets attached to it also has the one way ratchet axle in the center. Its permanently mounted.  The four large turntable magnets rotate in the direction indicated.

You can figure out most for yourself.  The turntable magnets are not connected to the yellow framework setup with the smaller magnets at all.

Notice the repel forces go around clockwise. The ratchet always keeps the yellow framework and 4 smaller magnets from moving counter clockwise.

Maybe this can work and the ratchet head (with attached axle below it) can be clamped overhead while in a vertical position.

Tom

Omnibus

Hi Stefan,

I have never had any intention in stopping Tom from doing his experiments. On the contrary. All I want is for him to learn that he hasn't done anything original so far and to abandon his wrong impression, which you can sense in almost every post of his, that he is giving something new to the world. We've seen a lot of overly enthusiastic persons and we need to cool them down for the benefit of the success we all expect. False claims amount to nothing and only feed the attacks of the critics. Tom should know that 99.99% closeness to self-sustaining motor is equal to zero in this exploration. Only 100% self-sustaining motor is success and only then Tom should use statements such as "it works", "it will work" and so on in his postings. I strongly feel that he should be told that.

magnetman12003

Hi Omnibus,

So what you are saying then that everybodys post in the overunity group should describe their finished self runner and nothing else?? 

All postings in this entire group dont amount to a hill of beans unless they have a self runner to back their post up??   All or any posting of course must meet with your personal blessings before they are posted.

As far as "it works or it will work" made by me goes I will go along with that and describe everthing from now on as a motor " DEVICE". To illustrate any working device I will show a movie.

When I get this idea to self run I will call it just that--"A self running permanent magnet motor"  I will then drop the DEVICE name.

This device is my last and closest attempt to make a self runner.  I plan to keep at it untill that happens.

I need to find a good way to have gravity lean one magnet into another magnet all the time in a circular related form. I believe the answer lies there.

I am taking a week of vacation to rest up. Gone fishing. Untill then--


Tom