Bessler , Karl I! The fat lady is gonna sing , haters bring it I'm not skeered .

[murmel]

Can Stefan Hartmann tell us more ? Did he ever made a replica ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=sadl0Xl31JM&feature=endscreen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkhGLi1DhJk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD3yft0XKIw

[zoelra]

@murmel

My comment "Well Jim it looks like you are wasting your time working on a gravity wheel" was just a little fun thrown at Jim (johnny874) based on what onthecuttingedge2005 previously said about wasting time working on a gravity wheel.

I don't think it is a waste of time.

If you guys really want to study a runner, look at this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozcd12QTNrw
And for some history.
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:BuzzSaw_Gravity_Wheel
This wheel (although missing some key parts) was created by a descendent of Bessler living in America.

[johnny874]

@murmel

My comment "Well Jim it looks like you are wasting your time working on a gravity wheel" was just a little fun thrown at Jim (johnny874) based on what onthecuttingedge2005 previously said about wasting time working on a gravity wheel.

I don't think it is a waste of time.

If you guys really want to study a runner, look at this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozcd12QTNrw
And for some history.
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:BuzzSaw_Gravity_Wheel
This wheel (although missing some key parts) was created by a descendent of Bessler living in America.

  Zoelra,
They should see some of the harassment I've had to tolerate for working openly. Do believe I have an exceptional understanding of Bessler's work.
I'm one of those people where building a working wheel is not enough. If it were my original idea, then it would be different.
As things are, do believe I am going through the last of my medical problems. Have been attacked for those and one of those people actually say they recieve disability payments.
Still, in time I will build some wheels. You see, I have a muse. that is someone who, the definition; to turn something over in the mind meditatively and often inconclusively. This time there will be a conclusion. But first, I will need to do one build that can show where it resermbles one of Bessler's drawings. If not, then he might not receive credit for his work that he rightfully deserves.
And then when all is said and done, I'll have a really cool hobby. And one thing I have found out, even what seems to be a simple design can cost upwqards of $300.00 or more to build. And if specialty items are needed, the cost keeps going up.

                                                                                                                                   Johnny874

p.s. In the early 1900's, the Wright bros. were in contact with Octave Chanute, and engineer who believed flying was possible.
Still, perpetual motion I think will never be what Aviation has become.
edited to add;
  Octave Chanute (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octave_Chanute)
"For some years I have been afflicted with the belief that flight is possible to man."
http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/wrighthtml/wrightchan.html

[johnny874]

:~)

[ace569er]

this is what I have so far......about 2 hours in....This is a little more challenging than I thought....