Bessler , Karl I! The fat lady is gonna sing , haters bring it I'm not skeered .

[johnny874]

Willby,   is that true?  where does this piece of information come from?    Do you have a link? 




EM

  EM,
What needs to be considered is if she was just saving her ass and leaving Bessler out in the cold. Wouldn't be the first time someone has turned on somebody and won't be the last.
What it took for me to understand this concept was slowly working on the idea over a few months. It does take time to understand new idea's and Bessler's wheel is just that, a new idea. Will always be intoxicated can't accpet that doing something other than drinking and reading, but building, leads to new understandings.
Myself, I've spent 5 years building and learning how Newton's Laws of Motion applies to mechanical motion. This is why I consider the math to be 4m-a/.5a + 4m+a/.5a = 8m/a.
That is to say that the acceleration of gravity is cancelled out by the opposing weights being lifted which then any acceleration is a direct relationship between the masses being rotated (Newton's 2nd Law of Motion, see link) and the potential acceleration of the mass creating the over balance.
And since mass with no velocity is considered to have no force 1kg*0=0, it's potential or kinetic energy is what is being transfered and is thusly refered to as free energy.
Simply put, why the wheel rotates but the water is always in the same place.
Sometin' for will b 2 con cidder 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton's_laws_of_motion

[WilbyInebriated]

  EM,
What needs to be considered is if she was just saving her ass and leaving Bessler out in the cold. Wouldn't be the first time someone has turned on somebody and won't be the last.
What it took for me to understand this concept was slowly working on the idea over a few months. It does take time to understand new idea's and Bessler's wheel is just that, a new idea.

more misdirection from johnnyboy... WHERE IS THE MATH FROM LEIBNIZ?
there is nothing credible from bessler... his maid admitted to the fraud under oath... andreas gartner built replications of his 'wheel' that reproduced some of the 'successes' of bessler's public demonstrations including the locked room test...

not only that, but there has been nothing credible from any of you as to why this wheel should work... in point of fact, both you and EM have completely avoided answering my questions about these "great mathematicians" and "scientists" and instead have chosen to respond with logical fallacy... again, WHERE IS THE MATH FROM LEIBNIZ? where is the math from ANY of these "great mathematicians"? where is the data from these "inspections" by "scientists"?

Will always be intoxicated can't accpet that doing something other than drinking and reading, but building, leads to new understandings.

more logical fallacy from johnnyboy...   again, WHERE IS THE MATH FROM LEIBNIZ? do you even know what a cogent reply is?

Myself, I've spent 5 years building and learning how Newton's Laws of Motion applies to mechanical motion. This is why I consider the math to be 4m-a/.5a + 4m+a/.5a = 8m/a.
That is to say that the acceleration of gravity is cancelled out by the opposing weights being lifted which then any acceleration is a direct relationship between the masses being rotated (Newton's 2nd Law of Motion, see link) and the potential acceleration of the mass creating the over balance.
And since mass with no velocity is considered to have no force 1kg*0=0, it's potential or kinetic energy is what is being transfered and is thusly refered to as free energy.
Simply put, why the wheel rotates but the water is always in the same place.
Sometin' for will b 2 con cidder 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton's_laws_of_motion

why don't you have a working wheel then?
bessler's wheel won't work... i'll give you a hint as to why johnnyboy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xxn3WEGFaxE
unless of course, you plan on rewriting the laws of physics...  please make sure that your new laws jive with everybody elses new laws.  we wouldn’t want a conflict to arise between your physics and lifewave’s and angel light’s and q-ray’s and dna activation’s and thousands of other cranks out there.

[johnny874]

  wilby,
You are a troll.
This forum is for discussing ideas, unfortunately you have nothing to discuss.

             Johnny

[EMdevices]

WHERE IS THE MATH FROM LEIBNIZ?

try calculus 101,   

Seriously, why do you ask?  It should be obvious that Bessler did not share the secret, and I'm sure these guys were very anxious to put their skills to work and analyze why this thing worked as it did.

Why don't I have a wheel like Beeslers?   Because I do not know the secret, if I had it I would build a wheel to take advantage of it, and not only that I would share it, before the MIBs came knocking on my door.   

EM   

[WilbyInebriated]

try calculus 101,   

Seriously, why do you ask?  It should be obvious that Bessler did not share the secret, and I'm sure these guys were very anxious to put their skills to work and analyze why this thing worked as it did.

then where is the math?

Why don't I have a wheel like Beeslers?   Because I do not know the secret, if I had it I would build a wheel to take advantage of it, and not only that I would share it, before the MIBs came knocking on my door.   

EM

the mib? LMFAO  come on... you can do better than that.