Bessler , Karl I! The fat lady is gonna sing , haters bring it I'm not skeered .

[johnny874]

oh gawd... here we go again...
the principle of hydraulics is FREE ENERGY. ok... so then it should be easy to build a working wheel... WHERE IS IT?

   Wilby,
I have sent a message to Hartiberlin (Stefan) about your conduct.

                                                                     Johnny

[WilbyInebriated]

   Wilby,
I have sent a message to Hartiberlin (Stefan) about your conduct.

                                                                     Johnny

whatever...
i'm curious about leibniz now though...  i mean this is a guy who according to the wiki:

Leibniz made major contributions to physics and technology, and anticipated notions that surfaced much later in philosophy, probability theory, biology, medicine, geology, psychology, linguistics, and information science. He wrote works on philosophy, politics, law, ethics, theology, history, and philology. Leibniz's contributions to this vast array of subjects were scattered in various learned journals, in tens of thousands of letters

tens of THOUSANDS of letters... he designed wind-driven propellers and water pumps, mining machines to extract ore, hydraulic presses, lamps, submarines, clocks, etc. and yet all he wrote about bessler's amazing and world changing wheel was what amounts to a crappy 'celebrity endorsement'.

seriously?

and why would bessler make his maid swear this oath?

[johnny874]

whatever...
i'm curious about leibniz now though...  i mean this is a guy who according to the wiki:tens of THOUSANDS of letters... he designed wind-driven propellers and water pumps, mining machines to extract ore, hydraulic presses, lamps, submarines, clocks, etc. and yet all he wrote about bessler's amazing and world changing wheel was what amounts to a crappy 'celebrity endorsement'.

seriously?

and why would bessler make his maid swear this oath?

  Wilby,
you have consistently shown that you have no understanding of engineering. Why do you bother ?

                                                                                                                         Johnny

  @All, I have asked Christo if he might post some of this in besslerwheel dot com.
Children play among the pillars
with loud heavy clubs.
Acrobats and shadow-boxers
are as swift and nimble as the wind.

  I believe these statements refer to the childs toy which is 2 men with pick axes. When one swings down, the other swings away. And like acrobats, the weights flip from the outer part of the wheel to the hub where it makes a loud noise.

                                                                                                                                          Johnny

edited to add; Wilby, you should change your name. If you knew history, you would know that the Romans only wrote about 2 sentences about Jesus if that much.

[johnny874]

   @all,
I think this is when we start using Occams Razor. This means that a ximple answer is most likely correct.
I have read some of Besslers writings on bw dot com. In the DT, he was describing the 12 foot wheel at Kassel with the mechanics of Mt 20.

         Johnny

[johnny874]

   @All,
  This is something I posted in the other forum. it's basically how bessler's unique rim worked.
When I started thinking about it, I liked the idea that much more. The reason for this is the
sides of the rim give support to keep the rim round. This is important because any
distortion of the rim could result in catastrophic leakage keeping the wheel from working.
What might be possible to save on weight is to remove wood on the outer part of the wheel
essentially leaving support ribs going around the wheel. I think this is something that when
built everyone would understand.
And with the leather tube being "inlaid" into the rim, it creates a seal while maintaing the
tube's position in the rim. With the seal, the boards on the left and right would create the seal
by pinching the leather together.
Wood pegs would hold the boards above the lether attached to the boards beneath it. Wooden
pegs would be used to hold everything together. When they have hot warm water poured on
them, they will absorb the water and expand. This is an old timey fastener. And of course, when
the pump is in operation, the force would be in the direction of the seal. This would help to
maintain the integrity of the seal and it's components.
All I can say is Bessler was pretty smart. But then, like any good engineer, he found solutions
instead of problems.
by the way, the picture shows the pumps in their inner position. When they move outward, there
will be spaace between pump sections. It would take getting bessler's wheel built to see if it's
something to be concerned about.

                                                                                   Johnny