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Simple to build isolation transformer that consumes less power than it gives out

Started by Jack Noskills, July 03, 2012, 08:01:10 AM

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Quote from: TinselKoala on July 27, 2012, 10:55:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SpadJ03stqU#!

The presenter is at first showing a hybrid capacitative-inductive system involving high voltages. It's pretty neat, but I don't think you can pick up that transmitter by hand while it's operating. Later he shows a system like mine, but I can't tell if he's getting that "sn" effect.

In this case the representer shows resonant energy transfer by means of magnetic field. Nothing unusual as we have radio waves doing all work in same way :) No scalar things involved.

Quote from: JouleSeeker on July 27, 2012, 12:12:01 PM

There is a big LENR conference in Korea next month, still with "CF" in the title, ICCF17.  Interesting stuff...    Are the two communities actually reading the same book, while speaking different languages and not communicating much at all?

Yes, they are speaking about same things in different abstractions. Oviously, if everyone would speak in same abstracts, the nuclear/oil power source would be already long forgotten.. ;)

In terms on topic, the both 1:1 transformers might be best if they are custom winded with each layer on bifilar mode - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFcd_QCLK5w#t=0h12m22s with two primaries and two secondaries and with secondary coils wound opposite than primary coils... What it would give - the concentration of magnetic field into single small space. And amplified magnetic field means amplified induction :)

The Boss

Avalon.

Using TK's unit, I would suspect that standing (or at least colliding) waves may be had
with 2 TX loops connected in series placed apart, with the RX loop in between.


TinselKoala

Well, see, that's the puzzler. The SWR refers to the "antenna match", that is, how much of the power put out by the transistors is actually being radiated by the antenna, versus being reflected back into the apparatus by the impedance mismatch. Generally one wants the radiator... the antenna.... to be an exact quarter-wavelength electrically, of the frequency at which you are operating. This allows the most "forward power" and the highest power "out" wrt the transistor's actual power levels. 
My setup is operating at between 500 kHz and 1 MHz, so a quarter-wavelength is going to be soccer-pitch size. The standing waves have to be long, and with the physical dimensions of the device being so small, the electrical dimensions must be approximated with the cap values and the loop lengths.
Now, between the sender and the receiver.... there is room for real standing waves in that space, at harmonics of the fundamental, and perhaps that range-extension using multiple loops (active? inactive?) has some spacing or size dependence.  Perhaps my SNM has something to do with establishing a true standing wave resonance between the units involved.

There are so many interesting interactions and relationships that can be explored using multiple receivers that anybody building these things should have at least 3 receivers, two similar simple ones and one with DC output for motors, etc. After seeing the range extension effect in the video I linked, I am making several more intermediate loops to play with today.

TinselKoala

@JS: On power measurements.... these can be tricky, in spite of my earlier comments! DC input power in this case is easy. But what about output power?
I could consider the transmission loop to be a current-monitoring resistor of low resistance, like 0.01 ohm, and then, by scoping across the two ends of it, display the voltage drop across that "shunt", arrive at an instantaneous current waveform. And of course I could then multiply that by the voltage levels seen and then average over time, to arrive at an average power level out from the transistors, that could be compared to the input power.

I think the received power is more difficult to measure, though. Just going by the bulb brightness (power dissipated at the bulb) may be misleading.

Tito L. Oracion

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