Simple to build isolation transformer that consumes less power than it gives out

[Hope]

That small 2-3% efficiency gain might be had if we wound the coils differently.  The only coil I have ever heard of verified to have the highest know loss-less was 60 + percent above all other coils and this was the Rodin Coil.  Though it's field is compressed and centered (focused) can we also use this idea to boost (by containing) our coils emanations.


This project is interesting and may from using two identical (polarized) coils as primary splits and another two coils identical (polarized)to re-combine in the secondaries.  Would our gains improve yet again?

[e2matrix]

@JS

I had been thinking the same thing for days now but have not mustered the courage to try it, fearing a major short and system wide burn out. lol

But come to think of it, I think I mentioned this before that when the standard circuit was running and the bulb was lit at its regular load position, I had scoped each side of the load and found that one side was a good four times higher in voltage then the other side of the load. That seems rather unorthodox for an AC output that should be alternating at the same level from both sides. So maybe the side with the lower output can receive the ground negative.

I am just scared of trying it because the mains line has some good amperage there that could shoot up real fast.

wattsup

Think F-u-s-e  ... I know you know what that is   maybe 2 amp?   
I've seen two lines of thought on the concept of having a ground.  One says you can't get overunity with anything that is grounded.   The other says that ground can provide a source of electrons making overunity possible.  I think both may be correct depending on the type of circuit. 

[penno64]

Hi Wattsup,

Thank you so much for the easily understood explamation and link.

I have for the last 6 months, being trying as you have hinted, to use the beheaded mots
with what started out as romero/muller generator. It is surprisingly easy to get a high voltage
from a mot used as a gen coil, but near impossible to get any useful current.

It seems that the spacing of the mags and the gaps of the mot tend to give a resonable glide
for the rotor. All mags facing same way.

Once more, thank you, Penno

[a.king21]

@JS

I had been thinking the same thing for days now but have not mustered the courage to try it, fearing a major short and system wide burn out. lol

But come to think of it, I think I mentioned this before that when the standard circuit was running and the bulb was lit at its regular load position, I had scoped each side of the load and found that one side was a good four times higher in voltage then the other side of the load. That seems rather unorthodox for an AC output that should be alternating at the same level from both sides. So maybe the side with the lower output can receive the ground negative.

I am just scared of trying it because the mains line has some good amperage there that could shoot up real fast.

wattsup

A high voltage will always flow into a low voltage. You don't even need a diode.  What do you think would happen if you looped it?  Do you think you would create an infinity loop Kapanadze style?  If so I recommend you put a load in series prior to connection, and just to be on the safe side put a spark gap across the load to act as a current limiter.

[wattsup]

@penno64

No problem.
I found this thread on another forum that may give some insight into MOTs.
http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/transformer-core-weld-186550/

I was thinking further about using a beheaded MOT on a magwheel, and maybe it will be better to also cut away the side laminations (that is one hell of a job) so only the square center core is facing the rotating magnets. The sidewall laminations may be moving the magnetic impress to the outer end of the coil and now when the magnet is at the center it has to revert it back and this may be causing undue losses. Even if the MOT is placed with sidewalls facing up and down, that extra flux movement may be causing undue cancellation effects.

@JN/@JS

Could not help myself so I took my new transformers and re-did your circuit.
I have a very thick wire that is connected to the house 3/4" copper ground pipe that comes to my desk for quick earth grounding.

So while the trans are outputting I put the ground to either of the output leads to the bulb and nothing changes at all. My ground has effect on devices so I know it is a good enough ground but maybe not good enough for this test. Don't know.

wattsup