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Simple to build isolation transformer that consumes less power than it gives out

Started by Jack Noskills, July 03, 2012, 08:01:10 AM

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conradelektro

Quote from: dieter on February 09, 2014, 04:25:02 PM

I have to say, I'm a beginner in electronics, so my mind is not yet blocked by the dogmata of "accepted science ".  8) 


I am also a beginner and just learned that it is very difficult to measure the real power output of transformers and coils. It has all to do with the "power factor".

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_factor

Power factor:

The power factor of an AC electrical power system is defined as the ratio of the real power flowing to the load, to the apparent power in the circuit, and is a dimensionless number between -1 and 1. Real power is the capacity of the circuit for performing work in a particular time.

Apparent power is the product of the current and voltage of the circuit. Due to energy stored in the load and returned to the source, or due to a non-linear load that distorts the wave shape of the current drawn from the source, the apparent power will be greater than the real power. A negative power factor occurs when the device which is normally the load generates power which then flows back towards the device which is normally considered the generator.

So, people measure the apparent power and wrongly conclude that they see OU. Unfortunatelly most OU claims are based on naive measurements.

Greetings, Conrad

Farmhand

Well said Conrad. I stayed up late last night trying to read this thread, and I have to say, I do not understand why people would get so mobilized by the baseless claims of one person not even showing a picture showing that he has even built a device, and the claims based on the observation of a couple of light globes.
All it is is a couple of transformers. OMG

I hope people learn from this and discontinue to keep trying things at random, and instead try to learn some basics of electrical theory. Without a solid understanding of basic things like Ohms Law, power factor and Counter emf, people are open to believing almost anything.

This thread shocked me I have to say.

Cheers

Cap-Z-ro

Here is just the latest reason for the so called experts in a particular field to mind their own business and stick to their own research and leave the "ignorant and the uneducated" be.

" Discovered by accident

As to the new method, it was pretty much discovered by accident. According to the Boston Globe:

Dr. Charles Vacanti is an unlikely protagonist for one of the most startling scientific discoveries in years.

The genial 63-year-old anesthesiologist who left stem cell scientists shaking their heads in wonder and puzzlement last week, with the discovery that a simple acid bath could be used to generate powerful stem cells, doesn't even have a PhD.

Vacanti is an accomplished tissue engineer and the chairman of the Anesthesiology Department at Brigham and Women's Hospital, but he's a virtual outsider to the highly competitive and fast-moving stem cell field. ...

His discovery is a reminder that as specialized as science is, sometimes, a little ignorance may be a virtue. A stem-cell expert would probably never have even bothered to try the experiment Vacanti has been pursuing, on and off, since the late 1990s."

I rest my case...again...for the umpteenth time.

But some people just don't seem to get it, and likely never will...that most significant advancements in a particular field are 'discovered by accident'.

Regards...



Farmhand

Well I'm self taught mostly, I'm a boilermaker by trade. So what did we discover here by accident ? I don't buy everything the experts say either. I do lots of unconventional experiments, but I don't make baseless OU claims. If I think I find "OU" or extra energy entering a circuit, I would check three times think about it then ask someone else to verify it, someone who I know is competent at measuring power, AC or DC.

Cheers

P.S. Notice the experts are taking notice though, so he might be onto something, biological processes are a bit different to power measurements.

Also treating the stem cells to an acid bath may have repercussions later on for the recipient see the link. So a lot of further research would be required, in my opinion.
http://www.cancerfightingstrategies.com/ph-and-cancer.html#sthash.VObWzpu7.dpbs

The guy is certainly not a novice is he. Vacanti is an accomplished tissue engineer and the chairman of the Anesthesiology Department at Brigham and Women's Hospital

It's a similar situation to an electrician discovering something an electrical engineer didn't. They are both in the same field (medicine) and qualified.

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Cap-Z-ro

All naysaying accomplishes is to stifle free thinking.

Can't you see that ?

You discourage creative thought of other tinkerers with negativity.

Let people find their own way, they may stumble on to something along the way.

Nobody is getting scammed by this concept, so just allow people time and space to dream think build.

Its not that hard...all you have to do is be silent and let things unfold in a natural spontaneous way.

Who knows, you may see something that takes you in the right direction.

But that can't happen when you are making noise and not listening.

Regards...