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Unipolar Induction - Relative motion isn't needed!

Started by gravityblock, July 14, 2012, 11:54:39 PM

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  A unipolar generator just confirms Einsteins theory that unifies electromagnetism and inertia.  Which of course leaves us with gravity.  The permanent magnet is physically spinning so we have electric charges moving and the virtual particle stream that creates charge is being altered.  This current flows through a nearby conductor where the virtual particles streaming into the moving magnet induce a change in the virtual particles streaming into the charged particles in the conductor.  The Earth as a whole is moving through space at 600km/sec so every charged particle is creating virtual particle currents.  Because you have a moving charge so it warps the virtual particle flow.  When we have a coronal mass ejection all of a sudden we have a whole bunch of charged matter conjoin with the Earth and surer then shoot it messes up the background currents and all hell breaks loose in anything relying on saturable core reactors and such. The  north pole is now ringed with large emradiation devices that can be pulsed up to tetrawatts of power.  They want to study a well understood phenomenon supposedly.  What it will do is create on command coronal mass ejection effects.  The last big one was in the 1800's and it cooked thousands of telegraph relays.  It lasted for three days or so these assholes could make it last for months.  No computers no cars no radios no power no anything electrical.  Tactical studies have been done about emp devices and here they are ringing the north pole.














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lumen

Quote from: Magluvin on July 25, 2012, 12:01:04 AM
It is funny though. If the homopolar gen can produce current in the disk, with the magnets spinning with the disk, Faraday paradox, is there drag?  And if so, what are we dragging against? And if we are dragging against something, what ever that is, if we apply power to the gen and use it as a motor, again, what are we pushing against in order for the disk and mags to be rotating together?

So if we can have drag and or acceleration, then we should be able to redesign, such a simple device as it is, and be able to move a vehicle or charge a battery, by moving the new design through thin air in say, a straight line instead of a circle. ;]

The thing that funny is, not all generators or motors will work paradoxically as the homopolar with mags attached to the rotating disk. So if it were not for Faraday and his dynamo, we would not know these things. ;]

Mags

There is no paradox, it only appears to be because current can be generated whether the magnet spins or not, but both cases are the same thing.

In a standard generator, current is generated when field lines are forced across conductors by using field intensity or changing polarity.

In the homopolar generator, you do not have this luxury because the polarity remains the same and the intensity is constant, but because cutting field lines is what generates the current, you don't need changing polarity or changing intensity.

Now here's the real problem, moving the conductor through this constant field will generate a charge, but if a current flows in the conductor, it will generate an opposing field that will repel the field lines from the constant PM field. (back EMF)

Only, this back EMF cannot exist, because as soon as you push on any of those constant field lines, they simply push on the others and they all just move away from the conductor! This is because there is no intensity or changing polarity to push them through the conductor.

Enter the second conductor! Now, with a second conductor, these constant field lines are trapped. They cannot simply move away from the conductor or they would have to cross the other conductor and in effect that's what they do. The current is generated in both conductors, moving and stationary and without two trapping conductors, no current can be generated.

TechStuf

Examine what is occurring in the world's smallest and most advanced electric motor, 8 million of which would fit end to end in the cross section of a human hair:


http://ws5.com/lifenotes/annurevbiochem.pdf


Materials can be engineered, that make use of quantum scale principles for the purpose of producing power at the macro level.  That man is VERY close to producing such devices, (already having succeeded in certain areas) and is clearly not even close to being ready to handle it, is but one of the many reasons he finds himself at his current collective precipice. 
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One may think of the flux strings in a magnetic field as "coherent gravity" and conversely, gravity as "full spectrum magnetism".  If one is able to level the playing field so to speak, and produce a meaning full analogy, one may see that there is a correlation to the ratios of inequality between the strength and efficiencies by which laser/white light is produced and those of Gravity/magnetism.


Light, being of much lower frequency than gravity or magnetism, impinges the Aether on a small scale.  Imagine if the flux strings emanating from a magnet were visible, what a view!  Or, say, the coherent photonic strings from a laser impinged greatly on the Aether such as flux strings, such that they pushed away from one another and were forced into an arcuate path! 


At any rate, we will see the answers to these and much more, soon enough.  And it won't come from the hands of men...


But the Hand of God.


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gravityblock

Quote from: lumen on July 25, 2012, 07:21:52 AM
There is no paradox, it only appears to be because current can be generated whether the magnet spins or not, but both cases are the same thing.

In a standard generator, current is generated when field lines are forced across conductors by using field intensity or changing polarity.

In the homopolar generator, you do not have this luxury because the polarity remains the same and the intensity is constant, but because cutting field lines is what generates the current, you don't need changing polarity or changing intensity.

Now here's the real problem, moving the conductor through this constant field will generate a charge, but if a current flows in the conductor, it will generate an opposing field that will repel the field lines from the constant PM field. (back EMF)

Only, this back EMF cannot exist, because as soon as you push on any of those constant field lines, they simply push on the others and they all just move away from the conductor! This is because there is no intensity or changing polarity to push them through the conductor.

Enter the second conductor! Now, with a second conductor, these constant field lines are trapped. They cannot simply move away from the conductor or they would have to cross the other conductor and in effect that's what they do. The current is generated in both conductors, moving and stationary and without two trapping conductors, no current can be generated.

The topic of this thread, in case you didn't notice, is relative motion isn't needed, nor is it a requirement for induction.  As Broli already posted, Prof Muller shows that you don't need a "stationary" circuit piece in order to generate a voltage.  The other experiment shows that a voltage can be generated on the classical "disc" of a homopolar generator by spinning the magnet clockwise and counter clockwise in an oscillating matter, showing the acceleration and deceleration being the cause of voltage generation.  This experiment shows you don't need a "rotating" circuit piece to generate a voltage.  The two experiments shows there can be induction without having relative motion between a stationary circuit and a rotating circuit.  In other-words, a rotating magnet with a constant rotational velocity (RPM),of any value, will have the same effect as a stationary magnet which has a constant rotational velocity of 0 RPM (both cases are the same thing), since they both will have a non-varying RPM).  However, a rotating magnet varying in RPM (acceleration/deceleration) as compared to a magnet with a non-varying RPM, including a magnet with a non-varying RPM of 0 (stationary magnet),  will not produce the same results (both cases are not the same thing).
Gravock 
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

gravityblock

It amazes me how so many people can miss the boat. 

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.