My Invention

[johnny874]

  zoelra,
what people might find interesting and hopefully be easy for you to do is have 5 lbs. on the pendulum and 2 1/2 for tne counter weight. the line would go from the cw to the pulley above it then to the bob. a weight would be moving twice it's own weight.
maybe alan can discuss it with you. only reason I thought of trying something like this got tired of a thread that is 10 years old. it's something like 12 times more power, alan knows which one I'm talking about.

[zoelra]

James,

I am confused.  Please correct me where I am wrong.

2.5lb as the CW and 5lb as the BOB.  Cord goes from CW to overhead pulley then straight to BOB.

This is basically the setup I used in my last video post, but I used identical 2.5lb weights for the CW and BOB.  In that setup, the BOB lifted the CW and with a fair amount of force.  This is opposite the reset movement we are seeking.

I am attaching that video to this post.

Rick

[johnny874]

 can't see videos right now.
what 2 1/2 lbs. lifting 5 lbs. would show that a 2 1/2 lb. cw could drop 2 inches while a 2 1/2 lb. bob could move 3 inches. it would be one way lost motion of the bob could be restored.

[johnny874]

  zoelra,
tomorrow, I will post a diagram that will be fairly simple. And if that doesn't show anything, then I'd have to think it unlikely of being able to work perpetually.

edited to simplify post.

[johnny874]

  zoelra,
the diagram is for reference only. as tinselkoala has pointed out previously, I do not have a computer to work and references are not acceptable.
What the digram shows is that using 5 lb. weights, there is 45 inches pounds for the counter weight and 60 inch pounds for the pendulum.
If the pendulum swings inward 3o degrees and the cross beam tilts 4 inches, this will lift the bob 2 inches. If the bob is being pulled from the side to maintain a 30 degree relationship with gravity (no gain), it might be able to be lifted the 2 inches for less than 10 pounds of work. This is because pulling it from the side
should use less energy. And then it might be possible to have 10 inch pounds of the counter weight power a "winch" at something like an 8:1 ratio. Even at such a small movemewnt, when the bob is being pulled to the side, if it requires even 2 1/2 lbs. of force to hold the angle, it will move higher.
Why this would matter is when it swings, with the fulcrum being 4 inches higher, this would mean a 4 inch drop in the bob as it swings. And this drop might allow it to swing back to 30 degrees. The vertical drop of the fulcrum would add some momentum to the bob but can't be sure how much.
If you want to mess with it, it's all yours. If so, try having a 1 pound weight using a hoist type pulley to see if it can hold the bob to one side. It'd end up being a lot of work in the end if it's possible.
But I've put a lot of work over the years into Bessler's wheel. And what is so funny about that is the floks over at Bessler wheel.com don't believe perpetual motion is possible.
zoelra, here's a some what simple idea I came up with. I like how Alex modified it. No reason something like this wouldn't work. It's based on a pump being able to pump enough water into a tank which feeds a bucket that operates the pump.
Kind of why I wonder why tk thinks I need to learn his ways. He's posted over 4500 times and probably has nothing to say. Needless to say, I think I am tired of the trolls in these forums. But check out the thread.
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http://www.overunity.com/12426/continuously-flowing-water-theory/