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Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity

Started by Pascuser, August 28, 2012, 07:03:17 PM

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tim123

Quote from: Khwartz on March 16, 2014, 08:27:22 AM
Hello tim, how it's going for you, did you get what you needed to go forward?  Did you acheive o.u. on the bar?

Hi Khwartz,
  I've just received some mosfets to build a new high-power ZVS driver... I now have a SWR meter too.

My feeling is that my SWR meter will not accurately measure the output from my IRF450 pulse-driver - it needs a sine-wave. The pulse-driver's too inefficient too.

I did test the bar-gen with a 2 layered coil...

With a 2-layered coil - which cancels out 99% of capacitive coupling - the Vialle effect does not occur.

Single-layer coil - wire goes from one end of the coil to the other and stops.
There is a (full) voltage difference between the 2 ends of the coil - and hence the 2 bars...
Vialle effect occurs...

         Tube A             Tube B
           50v                   0v
      =========  ========
   IN -------------------------------- OUT
   50v                                         0v

2-layer coil - wire goes to the end of the coil, and then back again.
The voltage drop across the wire averages out.
No Vialle effect.

              Tube A            Tube B
                 25v                25v
            =========  ========                 Voltage drop...
50v  IN  ---------------------------------| 25v       > (50-25 = 25v)
0v OUT  ---------------------------------|              < (25-0  = 25v)


This does NOT mean that the device may not have an OU mode of operation, BUT it does mean that capacitive coupling is an important part of the device / effect - and without it - nothing happens.

The fact that there is no resonance, and virtually no output from the bars with a 2 layered coil means, I think, that M. Vialle's theory of operation is incorrect - as the varying magnetic field alone does not cause the effect.
http://jnaudin.free.fr/rvproject/html/principervgen.htm

The device with a 2-layer coil is an effective induction heater though. After the tests - the bars were hot.

Thinking about it - I could test the opposite. If I wire the coil up differently, I could cancel out the magnetic field - leaving only the capacitive effect...

Anyhow - it's clear that it'll only work with a 1-layer coil.

I still want to find and build a good efficient sine-wave (inverting) driver for it - and make the measurements properly - but I'm not sure which circuit to use... Could use some advice on that TBH...

Quote from: Khwartz on March 16, 2014, 08:27:22 AM
I have achieved o.u. "global COP" on my own activity (see our MPs) the first week of March but need to be continued ;)

Eh?

:)
Regards, Tim

Khwartz

Hi tim, sorry for late response :/

Very nice to know you still going forward on the experiment :)

Still I don't very comprehend how you're so sure to conclude to capacitive effect, while 2 or more layers have been said destroying harmonics and so avoid anyway the Vialle's effect :/

In addition to this, still 1 layer, at the opposite,  will work even foiled in a aluminium sheet, grounded or not. So, in this case, how capacitive coupling could occur? Between what and what? (Don't hesitate to join draws or schematics to illustrate cause I still very not follow your reasoning :/ ).

For the "overunity COP activity", didn't you received from me any PM about? 

Best regards,  Khwartz.

tim123

Hi Khwartz :)
  this project has helped me forward in many ways. I've learned a lot.
- I've bought & read the books on the UK Ham Radio course - so I can understand RF better.
- I've bought an SWR meter, a CB radio and an antenna tuner (ATU)
- I've built my first antenna - which works really well (SWR 1.08)
- I built the IRF450 pulse-driver.

Capacitive coupling is *definitely* occurring in the Vialle device - and it is because of the single layer coil. With such an arrangement - capacitive coupling is certain.

I am not saying that it's not OU - I've not been able to test that yet.

No, I did not receive a PM...  ???

Khwartz

Hi tim! Nice to see you progress in anything :P

For "capacitive coupling", could be it occurs, but for me you still haven't demonstrated that is the "real why" the Vialle effect occurs: IT IS NOT BECAUSE TWO PHENOMENONS LOOKS SYNCHRONISED THEY ARE LINKED! ;)

Still as I see it: the Vialle effect could occur BECAUSE of very thin harmonics like Biganos looks having demonstrated, if I remember well it was him. And as BlueDragon, if I remember well too it is him who wrote this: any multiple layers destroys these harmonics.

Anyway, please I really really need to understand: why folding the single layer in an aluminium foild won't avoid mostly if any capacitive coupling? Why this test already praticed by Pascal, JLN and others, is not relevant for you? Please, really, go into physics more precisely if needed, with schematics and so on if needed too.  8)

Infinite Exponential Happiness. Khwartz.

PS: OK,  I will check for the PM why you didn't receive it :)

Khwartz

Here the PM you were supposed to received (copy-pasted from my sent box) ; )

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QuoteQuote from: tim123 on February 23, 2014, 07:51:58 PM]
Hi Khwartz,

Hi tim,
Sorry for late reply :/

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  it's very kind of you to offer to help with costs :), perhaps if i can achieve something worthwhile, in time... I'm ok for money really...
Very nice to know that :)


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Spend it on buying yourself a sig-gen...?

The problem for me is time!

I'm already working since few years to try to make a system "overunity": my own activity!  Lol and until now my "global COP" (compare to basic needs for famuly and personal fonctioning) is still underunity :/ so that why theoretically I should not be supposed to have any other activity until my family could have enough to survive.

But true Free Energy is an very important Quest,  imo, and it makes for me a diversion to change my mind too.

But I am used to fix and repair material things at work so it won't change my mind if I do experiments for now, intellectual work only better change my mind ;) So I am not in a hurry to buy anything for now too...

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:)
Tim
Khwartz.

BTW, We have had a "Global Overunity COP" in our activity this month :p