Is joule thief circuit gets overunity?

[Neo-X]

Guys watch this http://youtube.com/watch?v=iN__4c4ipXo a working overunity joule thief circuit.
Heres the schematic diagram.

[conradelektro]

I took a screen shot from this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN__4c4ipXo and it shows a very strange wire arrangement. This large tangle of wires hanging down besides the table seems to be part of the circuit but is not explained or referred to.

A lot of RF-noise could be induced into the circuit via this tangle of wires. Near this tangle of wires could be some sort of RF-transmitter (e.g. a Slayer Exciter or a sparking 220 V AC motor) inducing power into the circuit.

The circuit diagram shows a very conventional Joule Thief.

Greetings, Conrad

[ltseung888]

Second test results for board 38.  The Input Voltage was increased to over 1V.  The COP changed to -2.47.  THe negative sign came from INPUT implying a feedback circuit.

Results on all three boards are consistent on two models of Atten oscilloscopes.  It will be interesting to see the results on other oscilloscopes.

[ltseung888]

Just a little theory after much experiment.
(1) Examine the Output Voltage Waveform.  It is pulsed with peak higher than 3V.  This is reasonable as more than 3V is required to light the LED.

(2) The Output Current Waveform is mostly positive.  This is reasonable as the LED acts as a Diode, allowing current to flow in one direction.

(3) The Input Voltage fluctuates but remains positive.  This is reasonable and indicates a Feedback to disturb the steady DC voltage.

(4) The Input Current fluctuates with both positive and negative values.  In the above cases, the negative value is greater than the positive.  That creates the negative Input Power.  The surprising discovery is that the numerical values (Vpp or Vrms or Vavg) are smaller than Output.

With a normal transformer, if we increase the voltage on the secondary, the current must go down.  In the case of the above FLEET circuit, the voltage in the secondary increases and the current also increases.  Energy must come from the surrounding for this to happen.  Are we leading-out or bringing-in the electron motion energy from the toroid and/or surrounding???

[Neo-X]

I took a screen shot from this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN__4c4ipXo and it shows a very strange wire arrangement. This large tangle of wires hanging down besides the table seems to be part of the circuit but is not explained or referred to.

A lot of RF-noise could be induced into the circuit via this tangle of wires. Near this tangle of wires could be some sort of RF-transmitter (e.g. a Slayer Exciter or a sparking 220 V AC motor) inducing power into the circuit.

The circuit diagram shows a very conventional Joule Thief.

Greetings, Conrad

Thanks Conrad it gives me an idea that this was really fake or just a mistake. I carefully analyze the circuit and I cant see any way that the source battery could charge itself. In the picture i made a circuit current flow so we can clearly see its opearation.