Is joule thief circuit gets overunity?

[TinselKoala]

@TK

Thank you for the information.  Apparently, they have 4-CH high end DSOs and the experts to calibrate and use them.  Instead of travelling to Shenzhen (a 2-hour journey), I can get to this place within 30 minutes.

Instead of waiting for poynt99 for his 4-CH results, I shall work with this group before the Top Universities.  They may be able to point out more errors and improve the experiments.  Now I do not need to solder boards or set up complicated DSOs.  I can focus on sowing seeds.

God has HIS ways.

Indeed.

And indeed, TestConnectionAsia does have the very best topline DSOs and DPSOs. However, I asked you to see about using an INTEGRATING WATTMETER, not a DSO.
Mr. Bahng or his associates will be able to tell you which of their power meters might be most appropriate to use, given the frequency and power ranges of interest in your boards.
I have used the Clarke-Hess 2330 with very satisfactory results, but this is an old instrument and more modern technology now exists.

[ltseung888]

Indeed.

And indeed, TestConnectionAsia does have the very best topline DSOs and DPSOs. However, I asked you to see about using an INTEGRATING WATTMETER, not a DSO.
Mr. Bahng or his associates will be able to tell you which of their power meters might be most appropriate to use, given the frequency and power ranges of interest in your boards.
I have used the Clarke-Hess 2330 with very satisfactory results, but this is an old instrument and more modern technology now exists.

@TK

Why not both DSO and integrating wattmeter? That will be collaborating evidence.  They will have a FREE board to test and improve.  Hong Kong and China will lead the World with actual research.


Will that be fertile soil?

[TinselKoala]

Yes, Lawrence, of course you should use every bit of test equipment that is appropriate, and if you show up with your charts and graphs and your best board in Mr. Bahng's office one morning and explain to him what you need, he might be interested enough to put some of his considerable resources at your disposal. Take him to lunch! Sow seeds, but sow them on fertile ground.

Here is something upon which to meditate, a little koan for you:
Finding evidence that _confirms_ your theory or claim is very nice.
But _failing_ to find evidence that _falsifies_ your claim or theory..... is what is necessary for credible scientific proof. Look hard and well for contrary evidence. Failure means success!

[ltseung888]

Board 109 has been sent to Yau Lee Group in Hong Kong.

http://yaulee.com/eng/businessDomain/intro/buildingCon.htm

This group has the necessary resources to influence the research and development of Lead-out Energy.

[ltseung888]

Board 106 went to Law Maker - Ms. Regina Ip.  Her young assistant, Mr. Ho, can do the demonstration.

Her contact information:
www.reginaip.hk
afredchan@reginaip.hk
Phone 2580-0065.