Free energy generating coil.

[Mark_Eric]

I think TK was smart enough not to get trapped into saying that he knows how he DID it. He and others said and showed how he COULD have done it. The guy could have faked it another way. If others tried to replicate it and couldn't, that also doesn't mean its fake (just that it very likely fake). If he swears its not fake, tries to replicate it, can't replicate it, that STILL doesn't mean it's fake.

Basically that's why we can never know, even if the poster themselves said its fake. So what are we left with?

As someone who has been wanting to put up videos on a few very simple things I've hesitated, because I know that people are going to dismiss them out of hand. "If that were real, people would have found that out by now!" they'll say. That is why tricksters/hoaxers bother me, because they encourage a skeptical attitude, least one be made look silly for believing. That skeptical mindset hasn't gotten us OU, but at least no ones gonna pull one over on us!

So TK, while I get your analogy of a magician or a movie, I don't agree. When I go see a magician, I might not know HOW I'm being tricked, but I do know that I'm being tricked. If the tricksters want to amaze and impress us, do like TK does(alt.snakeoil means be wary) and give an indication in the title or comment. Something like "video is Rossi-esque", or "video is Rossified".

[gadgetmall]

Mark thats is what separates the Men from the boys  We man up and tell out front unlike the hacker dude . HE will not allow you to know he is a fake . Like Crist Angel when he made his first appearance .he had to be taken down by another Masked magician to show the illusions.  . .and how many Experiments have you done in the last 4 years ? I was fooled like every one else and built the damn thing . same hard drive magnet freken counted the coils ,diameter . and  Feel Betrayed and stupid  because of that jerk hacker. Try it . T you can build this 100,000.00 different ways and there is no way possible he has a "Secret dc transmitter "to produce the voltage and current of 5.9 VDC and run a dc motor .impossible .I have repeatedly asked him to do a video "unedited" and read the battery then if it's 9 volts . ok then read the "coil" . He refused . and the simple second thing is short the terminals of the meter . Simple and any inventor  asked would not ignore you if they WERE NOT  faking and accused of it.
what we know that you don;t is if he tried to read that 9 volt battery it would add or subtract the exact voltage of the rigged meter batteries . and He Know IF HE shorts out the rigged motor with a metal object it runs.
Any free energy experimenter that has video channel on this board or energetic forum would be more than happy to do it again if they were called a fake. This guy IS a fake.he can't talk the talk or walk the walk.
It's pointless except believe what you want to believe .BUILD and Learn !@! that will never change in all of us . I believe in free energy . Not scammers. .

[TinselKoala]

@gadgetmall... heh, it was fun thinking of ways to "fekk" all the items you listed. Let's see....

1) metering the 9v battery: take the battery's guts out and replace with 3 volts of button cells. Combined with the batteries in the meter and the motor, the motor will run fine when touched to the battery terminals and the meter will indicate 9 volts when the battery is measured.
Then read the coil...you get the six volts from the meter battery.

2) Shorting the motor terminals with a metal object: but which motor terminals? Maybe you need to provide continuity from the motor _case_  to one terminal to make it run by the internal batteries, and if you use the regular terminals it works like a  normal motor. Easy to do and easy to make one of the coil's alligator clips contact the case when hooking the coil up. So you could short the terminals with metal, no run. Provide  known DC power to the terminals, run. Hook up coil to the terminals.... with one clip touching the case in a non-obvious way.... run, but on the concealed batteries.

I also like the idea of making the  meter probe leads interruptible by some kind of hidden switch in the probe, like maybe a springloaded tip that made real contact only when depressed, but could be touched sideways to something without making real contact to the meter circuit.

Even better you could rip out the meter's guts and replace it with an Arduino programmed to display different values for different  meter switch settings or number of probe touches.

The moral of the story: always bring your own meter!

[gadgetmall]

@gadgetmall... heh, it was fun thinking of ways to "fekk" all the items you listed. Let's see....

1) metering the 9v battery: take the battery's guts out and replace with 3 volts of button cells. Combined with the batteries in the meter and the motor, the motor will run fine when touched to the battery terminals and the meter will indicate 9 volts when the battery is measured.
Then read the coil...you get the six volts from the meter battery.

2) Shorting the motor terminals with a metal object: but which motor terminals? Maybe you need to provide continuity from the motor _case_  to one terminal to make it run by the internal batteries, and if you use the regular terminals it works like a  normal motor. Easy to do and easy to make one of the coil's alligator clips contact the case when hooking the coil up. So you could short the terminals with metal, no run. Provide  known DC power to the terminals, run. Hook up coil to the terminals.... with one clip touching the case in a non-obvious way.... run, but on the concealed batteries.

I also like the idea of making the  meter probe leads interruptible by some kind of hidden switch in the probe, like maybe a springloaded tip that made real contact only when depressed, but could be touched sideways to something without making real contact to the meter circuit.

Even better you could rip out the meter's guts and replace it with an Arduino programmed to display different values for different  meter switch settings or number of probe touches.

The moral of the story: always bring your own meter!

SHEEEIT ! well if he reads this forum i guess his next video will go viral ;  0  )
and even snake oil get  IS THIS REAL  !  And i want to puke every time i log in on the front page . Stephan should know better to run that crap day after day . depressing .     It has already drove me Craaaaa zy .
The Coil . the COIYALL .... Must check the Voltage on the COIL .

[Pirate88179]

I sort of have to agree.  If I go see a magician...I KNOW I am about to be tricked.  Alt.snakeoil....same thing right?  Mylow....not so much....this coil guy....not so much.  It would not surprise me if he were to start selling kits.....

Ever Lasersaber did something like this for April fool's day...knowing that smart folks would know it was a joke....but...he said it was a joke.  That, to me, is the big difference.

I agree Stefan should remove that video.  He is still traveling in Europe and will be for a while.

Bill