Probality of God

[hoptoad]

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The very concept of "design" is giving rise to so many different preconceptions, which I personally think is the main reason for the reaction against it.

To many people, scientists not excluded, "design" means there must be an objectified personal entity being the maker of the design.
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As Wilby has pointed out, it helps to have the same definition of a word (in context), to create a dialogue that is mutually accessible and understandable.

For example, where many people may use the word 'design' in the context of 'observing emergent structural design' arising from chemo synthesis, I would use the word pattern, as in -  'observing emergent structural pattern'.

The difference is a minor semantic one, but the intended meaning was the same. However, intention is sometimes misunderstood!

I understand your ideas regarding a universal intent, and accept them as possible, even poetically noble, but not necessarily probable.

I try not to get stuck in semantic detail regarding word definitions, but occasionally for clarity, I guess it's necessary.

Thankfully we can rely on Wilby to keep us on a definitive track!

Cheers

[hoptoad]

oh god... here we go again...

acceptance by faith is for the ignorant... please keep your ignorance to yourself.

In rebuttal to my previous post and just for the sake of being semantic .... I think it should be - oh M.G.F.S.M. ! here we go again!

Cheers

[WilbyInebriated]

In rebuttal to my previous post and just for the sake of being semantic .... I think it should be - oh M.G.F.S.M. ! here we go again!

Cheers

r'amen... r'amen.

[onthecuttingedge2005]

hypnotism is not excepted unless you submit yourself to it as well. you wanna go around 'believing' your a chicken? just saying......

[Cap-Z-ro]

I will add one thing though.

For the second time Obomba will be swearing his oath in private.
There has to be something powerful about the bible...else he/they all would just take the oath while lying through their teeth, and the afterward joke about how they pulled it off again.
I'm starting to look at the bible with fresh eyes.
Despite all the crap inserted in it, the main theme seems to retain a powerful meaning.
No... I will not ever attend church again.
Recovering cathoholic.