Probality of God

[eatenbyagrue]

The very attempt to discuss the probability of God by intellectual means is absolutely hilarious.
The intellect lacks all tools needed for such an achievement.

God is not anything you can prove.

God is a state of mind.

A state of oneness with everything.

What you are really saying is there is no god.  "State of mind" means nothing.  We already have minds that can enter states.  So your god adds nothing to the status quo, so therefore can be dismissed.

[ramset]

Gwandau

I just came in from  work for a moment ,But I must say
You tap danced all around the questions I have from Others of "Faith".

Because It is not by choice that I seek ,    it is as if I "Must" some how..?
its like a thirst that I can't explain ,and I suppose my most recent Work with People under extreme torment [addicts],and how much when they start to talk with a clearer Mind......The thirst is there in them also.........and it seems they
almost went Mad avoiding it and drowning or sedating it away !


I suppose my real question is to the Agnostic which Q seems to be
and "W" says he is.

Do they have this itch they can't quite scratch regarding a Creator or whatever..[have they ever]?
or have they dismissed it as Dumb ,and to be ignored??

Do they even Know what the heck I'm talking about??

Gotta go back out side for a bit ........

THx
Chet
PS
I see "Eaten"s post
Eaten ...You ever have something like this happen to you??
something that sorta ""Eats" at you regarding a creator??

[eatenbyagrue]

Gwandau

Do they have this itch they can't quite scratch regarding a Creator or whatever..[have they ever]?
or have they dismissed it as Dumb ,and to be ignored??

You are referring to man's nature to find a pattern and order to things.  This is why conspiracy theories flourish.  The idea of the world truly being a chaotic place of random events is scary, so it is best to come up with a conspiracy theory, whereby there is a plan behind the things you see.


God is just another conspiracy theory, one that man came up with to comfort himself.  If there is a God (putting aside for the moment the question of where the universe came from), he has not thought it worthy to present us with any evidence of his interest in us.  People can spend lifetimes talking to their invisible friend inside their heads, but there will be no answers.

[ramset]

Eaten
Just for Clarity
Yes you have had this Nagging feeling.
and you have reasoned it away and are very Comfortable with your decision.

So Comfortable that you are dumbfounded by others inability to see the obvious?

Is this correct?

Thx

Chet

[Qwert]

Gwandau, eatenbyagrue I guess, you both are just right. I am using maybe somewhat improper expression in my arguments, yours is just better. I argue against those who believe that God is an entity which lives somewhere else, watches our sins and punishes; in fact, we punish ourselves when unable to handle bad information. We also have power to reward ourselves with good health, just with the help of our state of mind.