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Probality of God

Started by Newton II, September 14, 2012, 01:33:36 AM

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WilbyInebriated

#620
October 11, 2012, 02:29:04 AM
Quote from: Bruce_TPU on October 11, 2012, 02:27:02 AM
I thought the sourse was obvious, THE BIBLE.  Went back and checked and yes, scriptures.  Glad you saved it!   ;)
liar... your source was http://www.godonthe.net/evidence/messiah.htm
THAT is where you copied and pasted from WORD FOR WORD... LINKS, FONT AND SIZE TAGS INCLUDED without referencing your source you lying plagiarist. god sees what you are doing you filthy, lying, cheating, swindling, sinner. and he is not pleased with you.

Quote from: Bruce_TPU on October 11, 2012, 02:27:02 AM
I don't need to design an experiment to convince you of the reality of God
yes... you do. what part of "enough of your lies and bullshit red herring logical fallacies you poseur..."  don't YOU understand?

enough of your lies and bullshit red herring logical fallacies you poseur...
lets start with your observation...
it could be something along the line of 'the universe is vast and complex'

then we go on to your hypothesis...
for you it would most likely be 'god created the universe'

then you would design an experiment to demonstrate the validity of your hypothesis...
this is the part that we agnostics (and atheists) would be most interested in. ;)

and so on...
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe

Bruce_TPU

#621
October 11, 2012, 02:49:58 AM
Oh, by the way everyone, an AWESOME night tonight, as I participated in a city wide rally for the youth.  Thousands attended to hear the Word of God preached, and to worship.  The Holy Spirit moved on the hearts of HUNDREDS of youth that made a confession of faith in the Lord Jesus Crist experiencing the first step in their new life!  The angels of heaven rejoice when one sinner repents, and tonight, well, there was a lot of heavenly rejoicing going on!  I'll post some pics tomorrow for you all.

Funny, as W argues, hundreds have moved past him, already experiencing that which he hates, yet longs for, a changed life.  Ahh... Life is good!! And Eternal life... Even better!

Oh, by the way, W, if you are right about life, then when I have died, I haved lived a good life (impossible without a changed life) but if you are wrong, and the Bible is right, then you have lost your soul for eternity in the lake of fire.  Jesus said, for what is a man profited if he should gain the whole world and lose his own soul?  For what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

Walking with Him,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

WilbyInebriated

#622
October 11, 2012, 02:57:29 AM
Quote from: Bruce_TPU on October 11, 2012, 02:49:58 AM
Funny, as W argues, hundreds have moved past him, already experiencing that which he hates, yet longs for, a changed life.  Ahh... Life is good!! And Eternal life... Even better!

Oh, by the way, W, if you are right about life, then when I have died, I haved lived a good life (impossible without a changed life) but if you are wrong, and the Bible is right, then you have lost your soul for eternity in the lake of fire.  Jesus said, for what is a man profited if he should gain the whole world and lose his own soul?  For what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

Walking with Him,

Bruce
the oh so old and oh so flawed "pascal's wager"... ::) how is it you godtards are unaware that it is regularly used as an example of faulty logic...

from my post: http://www.overunity.com/11661/new-renaissance-prizes-offered-to-encourage-energy-experimenters/msg306920/#msg306920

ahhh the well worn and ohh so flawed "pascal's wager"  ::)
there are a lot of problems with this argument...

the first problem lies in the implicit yet unstated assumption that we already know which god we should believe in. that assumption, however, is not necessary to the argument, and thus the argument itself does not explain which religion a person should follow... this can be described as the “avoiding the wrong hell” dilemma. if you happen to follow the right religion, you may indeed “go to heaven and avoid hell.” however, if you choose the wrong religion, you’ll still go to hell.

the thing missed by so many of the godtards who use this argument is that you cannot “bet” on the general concept of “theism.” you have to pick specific doctrines... theism is just a broad construct which includes all possible god-beliefs and, as such, does not exist absent specific theologies. if you are going to really believe in a god, you have to believe in something â€" which means picking something... if you pick nothing, then your “belief” is literally empty and you remain an atheist. so, a person who picks risks picking the wrong god and avoiding the wrong hell.

a second problem is that it isn’t actually true that the person who bets loses nothing. if a person bets on the wrong god, then the true gawd (tm) just might punish them for their foolish behavior. what’s more, the true gawd (tm) might not mind that people don’t bother believing in it when they use rational reasons â€" thus, not picking at all might be the safest bet... you just cannot know.

also, some choices do indeed come with large risks. many have died because they trusted in prayer rather than medicine. others have perished due to the handling of poisonous snakes and the drinking of lethal liquids because zombie jesus said they would be able to do so without harm... thus, the choice of pseudoscientific and mystical beliefs can carry very negative consequences.

a third problem is the unstated premise that the two choices presented are equally likely. it is only when two choices are equal in probability that it makes sense to go with the allegedly “safe bet.” however, if the choice of a god is revealed to be a great deal less likely than the choice of no god, then god ceases to be the “safe bet.” or, if both are equally likely, then neither is actually a “safe bet”...

one final problem is the conclusion of the argument, where a person decides to believe in a god because it is the choice that offers the most benefits and least dangers. however, this requires that the god in question not mind that you believe in it merely in order to gain entrance to heaven and/or to avoid punishment in hell.

but this means that this god isn’t actually a just or fair god, since a person’s eternal fate is not being decided upon based on their actions, but merely on their decision to make a pragmatic and selfish choice...

but that's logic and reason... something you faithers don't wholly embrace. you only use logic and reason when it doesn't make you uncomfortable, if at all.

Quote from: Bruce_TPU on October 11, 2012, 02:49:58 AM
Oh, by the way everyone, an AWESOME night tonight, as I participated in a city wide rally for the youth.  Thousands attended to hear the Word of God preached, and to worship.  The Holy Spirit moved on the hearts of HUNDREDS of youth that made a confession of faith in the Lord Jesus Crist experiencing the first step in their new life!  The angels of heaven rejoice when one sinner repents, and tonight, well, there was a lot of heavenly rejoicing going on!  I'll post some pics tomorrow for you all.
enough of your lies and bullshit red herring logical fallacies you poseur...
lets start with your observation...
it could be something along the line of 'the universe is vast and complex'

then we go on to your hypothesis...
for you it would most likely be 'god created the universe'

then you would design an experiment to demonstrate the validity of your hypothesis...
this is the part that we agnostics (and atheists) would be most interested in. ;)

and so on...
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe

WilbyInebriated

#623
October 11, 2012, 03:06:03 AM
oh and bruce... even if your imaginary godfairy savior/creator friend IS real, i'd gladly spend "eternity in the lake of fire" before ever bending my knee to such a malign thug.


and hear this CFB bruce samuel tentzer, pastor of the chapel of the pines, nacogdoches, texas... i am a vengeful man... so think twice before you insult my honor or accuse me of sin.
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe
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