Probality of God

[Magluvin]

Hi Mags, and other Faithers,

Hey Bruce. ;]

Great stuff there. 

Mags

[eatenbyagrue]

So I stand on this side of the wall, and you on the other. I am happy with what I believe and know, and you are not happy with what I claim to believe and claim to know.  If you strictly dont believe or even want to know, then why bother me about it? Why the continuous argument? Especially if you have not even tried to really find out for your self. But for some reason you and others only trust and look for answers scientifically instead of going straight for the source.

You are always shifting the burden.  Now you are asserting that I am somehow bothering you?  How am I bothering you?


This is a discussion board, and we are discussing the topic at hand.  No one is forcing you to participate, if it bothers you to do so.  I am not harassing you at home, trying to get you to convert to atheism.


So if you are happy to cling to your iron-age mythology and the birght light of truth and science bothers you, don't participate in debate topics.

[Magluvin]

You are always shifting the burden.  Now you are asserting that I am somehow bothering you?  How am I bothering you?


This is a discussion board, and we are discussing the topic at hand.  No one is forcing you to participate, if it bothers you to do so.  I am not harassing you at home, trying to get you to convert to atheism.


So if you are happy to cling to your iron-age mythology and the birght light of truth and science bothers you, don't participate in debate topics.

And I am not harassing you at home.

I say God exists as shown in the Bible. Then you present your arguments, I present a way for you to find out for yourself and refuse to do so. What more can I do?

Mags

[Bruce_TPU]

Hey Bruce, why doesn't the Bible actually have useful predictions in it.  How useful would it have been to know about viruses and bacteria?  What about the concept of zero?  Table of the elements?  Anything that would actually help humanity in a practical way.

Ahh, my friend, but you have indeed hit the proverbial nail on the head.  All of the prophecies concerning the coming of the messiah are to PROVE beyond a shadow of a doubt that Jesus IS the real and NOT an imposter. 

Now, this is the really crazy part!  There ARE prophecies in the Bible that could help humanity.  But herein lies the problem, our definition of "help".   God's definition of "help" is saving lost humanity from eternal death and damnation and "from the wrath to come".  If you define "help humanity" in the equivilent manner, then let me tell you, that there is coming such a time of trouble for this world, the likes of which it has never seen (according to SPECIFIC Bible prophecies) and if God had not shortened those seven years, He says, "no flesh would be saved." 

These Bible prophecies tie in the illuminati cards and the great deception of mankind that we are just now beginning to witness.

I would gladly share these things, but only if individuals are interested in seeking "truth", where ever it may lead.

Lastly, I want to repeat for everyone here, that I stated in my last post, that NOWHERE in the Bible does it state that either the earth nor UNIVERVSE is only 6,000 years old.  The "creation" story of Genesis is really a "re-creation" or "re-newal" and only certain things were "created" at that time.  ALL things were created by the Word of God in the "ageless past", but Genesis also has what is called acts of permission given to formerly created things.  This too I would share in depth if someone expressed an interest in "truth" regardless of where it leads.

And lastly, I have yet to even touch on yet another point of "evidence" of the "probability of God".  The fact that Jesus went about doing good, healing all that were oppressed and sick.  Driving out demons, for they bow to the mighty name of Jesus Christ of Nazereth.  He also raised the dead.  There was NEVER a funeral, that he did not "break up" by raising the dead.

Now this is where it really gets crazy!  That true believers "faithers", in HIS name, have the power to do the same thing.  To heal the sick, to preach deliverance to the captives and the recovering of sight to the blind.  To set at liberty them that have been bruised, and to proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord!  (Bible prophecy)  This is done by the POWER of the Holy Spirit in the Name of Jesus Christ.

Also, believers, millions and millions around the world, like me, have received the Gift of the Holy Spirit.  Evidenced with the speaking of tongues.  A  NEW and HOLY prayer language the Holy Spirit gives to them that ask him.  Not ALL believers have asked but those who have, have this power.

God supernaturally gave me this power and this gift over 30 years ago.  It is real and I use this "gift" everyday of my life.  It has many purposes, this gift of "tongues".
I have personally laid hands on many hundreds in many countries, of believers who also wanted the gift of the Holy Spirit and I have seen, as they asked Jesus to submerge them with the Holy Spirit, that they too spoke with tongues and prophecied.  Miraculous stuff!

I have seen demons cast out and I have cast out demons.  I could tell you stories that would make the hair on the back of your neck stand up.  One such a man, is to this day Pastoring a Church in Louisiana.  Full of demons, until the night we all prayed and the Lord Jesus Christ delivered him and saved him!

I have seen the dead raised, on ONE occasion, through the name of Jesus Christ.

I have seen blind eyes open, I have seen deaf ears open, I have seen people with curvature of the spine healed and have the photos of the before and after X rays, to this day.  All through the mighty name of Jesus.  I have had the Lord speak to me on more occasions than I can count.  I have been given prophecies, had my own body healed twice.

But the GREATEST miracle, was that he saved me and changed my evil, vile heart of darkness and adopted me into His Kingdom, where I can now call him, "father" or "papa".   

Walking with Him,

Bruce

[hoptoad]

snip... God's definition of "help" is saving lost humanity from eternal death and damnation and "from the wrath to come".
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Gee, aren't we lucky, we are to be saved from the "wrath to come". And where is that wrath allegedly coming from ? From the biblical god of course! Another classic case of emotional blackmail - I'll help you to live and act as I say, so I can save you from my wrath!