Probality of God

[Magluvin]

I had high hopes of Mags. He does fight on further than the others. But when confronted he chooses to 'misread' what you write and cower under the same blanket "you must have faith, you must have faith" a little chant they are taught endlessly to keep them from asking hard questions.

High hopes of what exactly?  You ask for proof. We tell you how to do it. You refuse to try. How else can I help you sir? More coffee? Cream? 

Yet you never tell us if you tried. So dont tell us that we 'only' say that you must have faith. Ive said it several times like above. Here it is again...You ask for proof. We tell you how to do it. You refuse to try. Dont twist it again because of your short comings and failure to try.

Magzimus Leviticus

[hoptoad]

Other than that you are probably under the impression that we are all liars?  Probably, since you have not any solid proofs as to why we are the way we are. And if you do, please show them.

Never once have I intimated that faithers are liars. Never once have I attempted to offer proof to the unprovable. When it comes to matters spiritual, you either believe something or you don't, have faith or do not. I accept you believe in your god and that you have faith in your god, however, you seem unable to accept that I don't believe in, or have faith in your god, and have no need for a god-centric faith or purpose in life.

[CuriousChris]

High hopes of what exactly?  You ask for proof. We tell you how to do it. You refuse to try. How else can I help you sir? More coffee? Cream? 

Yet you never tell us if you tried. So dont tell us that we 'only' say that you must have faith. Ive said it several times like above. Here it is again...You ask for proof. We tell you how to do it. You refuse to try. Dont twist it again because of your short comings and failure to try.

Magzimus Leviticus

I do not recall you telling me "how" to prove anything. I have had a quick recap of the last few pages and nothing I can see.

Sorry for my 'blindness" can you point me to the post again so I can ponder your advice. (my high hopes, you would make a real attempt and not cower under "You must have faith").


While you are pondering the things I wrote in the last post (instead of resolutely ignoring them as you accuse me of doing), can I ask you a question?


What do you think of street corner bible bashers. Happy to hear from Tito and Bruce on this, Chet too if he is still following the convo.

[hoptoad]

I make statements based on my experience, experience that you do not believe.
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I do not disbelieve that you've had your 'experience/s'.

I simply don't attribute them to a god, whilst you do.

I've had many 'experiences' throughout my life too, that have been similar to those of others.
Why shouldn't these experiences be common? We all share the same genes and we're all mentally 'wired' similarly.
And from time to time our 'wiring' goes haywire, in similar ways. There's nothing surprising about similarity or commonality of experience.

[eatenbyagrue]

I will ask a question of the believers.  In light of your all powerful and benevolent god, that you apparently feel walking with you all the time, and who is always present, please ask him to explain why he allowed the following:


(1)  the Holocaust  (act of man)
(2)  the Indonesia tsunami of 2004  (act of god)