Probality of God

[PS123]

 How-to explain your Almighty for

Tsunami
Earthquakes
The book of Job
Etc.

If HE is omnipotent, has he that bad character, to even allow this ?? 

If you don’t want to blame him, accept that he is not alone to decide.

Peter

[hoptoad]

Free will or free willy? 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/victor-stenger/free-will-is-an-illusion_b_1562533.html

[ramset]

Free will.........
Perhaps the need to be "born again" opens A door [unlocks that "lock"} ?


Perhaps Evolution can be even More spontaneous than epigenetics has learned thus far?
Perhaps our DNA holds Keys we are only just starting to understand?

@Toad
You hurt my brain with that stuff!! [that link].
We learn more and more all the time these days,faster and faster we go..

"Round and round she goes ...Where she stops nobody knows".

One thing is for sure IMO we have a destination..........
But thats just my opinion !

Thx
Chet
PS
Chris,     didn't you know...there not miracles !
All things are possible   Only believe.......

Have'nt quite gotten there yet myself,!
If I did Wilby would be putting the motor in my Wifes car instead of Me !:,}

[Gwandau]

Now things at last are getting into good vibrations in this thread.

Even if it seems that most of the input here is deviating from the scientifically provable point of view in favour for ones personal views and thus deviates from the orginal aim of this thread, I must say that all your input right now is highly interesting and depicts presently a quite wide span of intriguing alternatives.

To me it seems that this topic has reached a more healthy temperature, allowing for a decent exchange of thoughts with mutual respect shown. It also shows it is actually possible to respect different views of reality without having to share them.


My personal experience of reality is that universe is not physical in the sense we have been taught since childhood by a object oriented society.

In the frontiers of quantum science today, matter seems to lose its traditional qualities of being inert driftwood in a linear universe, and scientists are starting to refer to matter as nodes of interference in a incredously intricate and complicated wave system rather than physical particles in the traditional sense.

This indicates that reality is not as physical as we thought it to be, and taking a step further the modern quantum perspective leads us into the interpretation of reality conceived by for example Tibetan mystics who for thousand of years have emphasized that our universe is projected forth at a vibrational speed of some 60 thousand trillion HZ. Their conclusion is based upon repeated similar observations made in deep meditative studies of vibrational levels of consciousness reverbrating a kind of resonating echo from the Source projection speed.

This would indicate that reality is a projection of sorts, executed on a scale beyond our human comprehension. And if universe is a projection, there must be a projector.

Such a projection would equal an Intent behind it.

Still, this does not indicate a man oriented god in the traditional sense that we have been conditioned to believe in since childhood.

Instead, such an Intent would be an all pervasive quality of our reality that would make every single atom unique and "alive", and our concept of "dead matter" would dissolve into a greater scheme of an all permeating consciousness.

It is intriguing how close this leads us to the concept of an omni present consciousness without falling into the trap of a personal man oriented god.

It is also interesting to note how such an outlook on reality allow us to be spiritual beings without the stigma and perversion of dogmatic religions like for example Christanity.

So this is how I experience universe, as a non physical spiritual being logged into in a universe without a traditional god but still being a creative part of an indifferent omnipresent Intent.

In this configuration, the dynamics of being spiritual "merely" indicates that our consciousness is temporarily logged into the matrix of a projected universe, and that we are just as intricately subjected to natural laws beyond our physical bodies as we are subjected to the dynamics of the physical world.


All this fully possible without the need of a man oriented god, which as a result for the traditional believers unfortunately makes their communication with their god into a communication with their inner being, which however rewarding and enrichening, still "only" resembles a local individual phenomenon.


Gwandau

[eatenbyagrue]

My personal experience of reality is that universe is not physical in the sense we have been taught since childhood by a object oriented society.

So this is how I experience universe, as a non physical spritual being logged into in a universe without a traditional god but still being part of an indifferent omnipresent Intent behind it all.

Gwandau

But why do you think your consciousness/spirit (however you want to name it) can persist outside your physical brain?  There is zero evidence for this.