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Probality of God

Started by Newton II, September 14, 2012, 01:33:36 AM

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Bruce_TPU

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October 24, 2012, 03:00:06 PM
Quote from: eatenbyagrue on October 24, 2012, 01:36:47 PM

The difference that escapes you is these guys are actually experimenting and attempting to validate their out of body experiences in a demonstrable way.  You seem to have no intention of validating your Jesus hypothesis beyond quoting the bible, which is evidence why?  Because it says it is true?

I tell you what, you ask your inner voice to predict a card flip or a dice roll, something like this.  When you can establish accuracy beyond pure chance, we will be happy to listen about your Jesus.

The results ARE the validation!  We have told all of you time and time again, that the results of this faith is a changed LIFE and Heart!!  But you all refuse to hear.  The Spirit of God has predicted all that has happened, is happening and will yet to happen.  But you ignore the validation. 

When you all see Jesus coming in the clouds of glory, riding upon a white horse, having a sash draped around him that says KING OF kings and LORD of Lords, THEN you will believe but it will be too late for you all. 

BUT there is HOPE!  I ONCE was YOU.  Ha!  You want validation.... If you only knew.  PRAY ALOUD, CRY OUT TO JESUS, "JESUS, SHOW YOURSELF REAL TO ME, THAT I MIGHT BELIEVE.'

You will be surprised at the results!   ;) :) :D

1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

WilbyInebriated

#866
October 24, 2012, 03:06:30 PM
Quote from: Bruce_TPU on October 24, 2012, 03:00:06 PM

The results ARE the validation!  We have told all of you time and time again, that the results of this faith is a changed LIFE and Heart!!  But you all refuse to hear.  The Spirit of God has predicted all that has happened, is happening and will yet to happen.  But you ignore the validation. 

When you all see Jesus coming in the clouds of glory, riding upon a white horse, having a sash draped around him that says KING OF kings and LORD of Lords, THEN you will believe but it will be too late for you all. 

BUT there is HOPE!  I ONCE was YOU.  Ha!  You want validation.... If you only knew.  PRAY ALOUD, CRY OUT TO JESUS, "JESUS, SHOW YOURSELF REAL TO ME, THAT I MIGHT BELIEVE.'

You will be surprised at the results!   ;) :) :D
bruce the gawdtroll regurgitates again...  ::)
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe

eatenbyagrue

#867
October 24, 2012, 04:28:46 PM
Quote from: Bruce_TPU on October 24, 2012, 03:00:06 PM

The results ARE the validation!  We have told all of you time and time again, that the results of this faith is a changed LIFE and Heart!!  But you all refuse to hear.  The Spirit of God has predicted all that has happened, is happening and will yet to happen.  But you ignore the validation. 

When you all see Jesus coming in the clouds of glory, riding upon a white horse, having a sash draped around him that says KING OF kings and LORD of Lords, THEN you will believe but it will be too late for you all. 

BUT there is HOPE!  I ONCE was YOU.  Ha!  You want validation.... If you only knew.  PRAY ALOUD, CRY OUT TO JESUS, "JESUS, SHOW YOURSELF REAL TO ME, THAT I MIGHT BELIEVE.'

You will be surprised at the results!   ;) :) :D

I said the magic words and nothing happened.

Please explain how you distinguish between the follwing two scenarios:

1.  There is no Jesus, but you believe in him and turn your life around by doing things you think Jesus would approve of.
2.  There is a Jesus, and you believe in him, and you turn your life around by doing things he might approve of.  You suspect, but cannot demonstrate to anyone, that it was Jesus that did this, and not you.

Is there a difference, and how would you go about demonstrating this?  Because right now I am assuming (1), as per Occam's Razor, as it does not require the fantastic to be true.

Gwandau

#868
October 24, 2012, 04:35:28 PM
Quote from: Qwert on October 23, 2012, 07:26:00 PM
About lucid dreaming; I also experienced that in the past. First it was absolutely involuntarily and I was really scared of, since my whole body was in complete "paralyzed" state. Later I've learned that brain works somewhat differently while in it: you see through your shut eyes and you are unable to move any part of your body. Later I was able to induce this using some techniques, but I never got OBE.

Qwert,
it's really intriguing to see how many of us that are familiar with lucid dreaming. Personally I believe the apparent increase the last ten years of such abilities to be a sign of a long needed paradigm change affecting the way we experience reality.

Quote from: Qwert on October 23, 2012, 10:25:05 PM
Maybe that thing is spirit. In my case I've never experienced OBE, just lucid dream. When I woke up immediately after that, the picture I saw during that dream lacked some accuracy comparing that real one: i.e. in my dream I missed street lights' shadow seen in the real picture. Clearly, my 'spirit' lacks accuracy.
Here is a link about:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_dream

Sleep paralysis, as it is generally called, is actually a possible way to induce OBE.   There is one site in particular that contain some quite interesting information about Sleep paralysis and how to transform this stage into Lucid dreaming as well as OBE.

http://dreamstudies.org/category/working-with-dreams/nightmares/sleep-paralysis-nightmares-working-with-dreams/

You will know when you are logged in to the normal reality seen from your dreaming position, everything will look exactly as it should, and you will be subjected to a very strong pull towards your sleeping body when you se it laying there in the bed. It is here that the ability to stay detached will pay off.
If you experience your waking surroundings to be somewhat altered , such as you mentioned, you are still situated inside the  "dream factory" of you mind trying to create a simulacrum of your normal vicinity.

Quote from: Newton II on October 23, 2012, 08:48:18 PM
I had tried OBE by a Hindu technique called 'Shavasana' in yoga.  This is a simple technque of controlling you breath,  slowing down your metabolic activities and freezing your body and awaken your spirit.   I tried this almost for 2 years and felt that 'something' in my body is trying to separate from the body and this 'thing' has got the independent  existence.  May be that 'thing' is spirit.  I experienced OBE 2-3 times but during OBE,  the mind goes into spirit and body lies as if it is a total  waste.

Here are few interesting links about this technique:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shavasana
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga-nidra
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra

Newton II,
Thanks for the links. The Asian Indian yogis probably were the first people exploring Lucid dreaming, since the yogi discipline possess the oldest known scriptures referring to such techiques.

Yoga-nidra seems to be closely related to some dream techniques practiced during the initial stages of falling asleep, where the focus is to watch the process of falling asleep in a detached mode of deep inwardly oriented consciousness.  Most people are totally unaware of this stage of falling asleep which harbours great moments of strong transition experiences filled with colorful visions, and if you are in a egoless and detached mode at this stage of falling asleep you will have the great opportunity to experience the actual transition from being awake to suddenly being in a Lucid dream.

This method, when mastered, is the most preferable way to enter Lucid dreaming, since you will be able to enter Lucid dreaming at any time you want.




Gwandau

Gwandau

#869
October 24, 2012, 05:02:05 PM
Bruce_TPU,

look at yourself,  so full of self rigtheousness, anger and smirk.

Were is the blessing of being a child of your god?
When you appear in this thread, the whole atmosphere changes into something aggressive and foul.

Is this what your god teaches you?

Then take a look at us.

We are humbly discussing the phenomenon of Lucid dreaming,
and we have lots of questions regarding our experiences,
in most cases we resemble the minds of curious children, open minded and receptive,
just like your god tells you to be.

Are we full of self rigtheousness, anger and smirk?



Peace, Love and Understanding,

Gwandau
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