Probality of God

[Magluvin]

I detect a little bit of fear from you.  And yes, you are splitting hairs. You saying God is an 'imaginary godfairy savior/creator friend' is the same as saying God doesn't exist, atheistard.

Gravock

Yes, exactly. Wilbert cannot grasp that consistently saying God is imaginary 'is' saying that God doesnt exist.

He must be a badnostic.  A lunatic at best. His All Fodda must be  proud?

Magzimus Leviticus

[Magluvin]

my 'mantra' is repeated because they keep responding with logical fallacies... repeatedly.
don't be such a prima donna... it's tit for tat, quid pro quo...  if they behave arrogantly and self-righteously, i will return that to them. if i have to be gross about it to get them to understand empathy, then so be it.

Empathy???  More like Idiocracy!!   

Magzimus Leviticus

[gravityblock]

seriously? you can't even discern when you are being mocked?

You wasn't mocking me. You're not able to discern between a truth and a lie.  You're also not able to discern between what you say, and what you thought you said, and in what you meant you thought you said.  LOL.  Don't they say a gold fish has a memory of only a few seconds.  After a few seconds they forget what they are running from, stop, and become lunch.  I don't even give you a few seconds.  You instantaneously and willing-ling jump right into it.  You then cleanse yourself like a female swine and jump right back into the mud. LOL

Gravock

[Qwert]

Why?, when you liquified the air, is that still an air?


What i'm trying to contrast is the visibility state of an air!    got that?


And i think it is you who do not know between something and something 

Not only air. We have devices to measure existing media INDIRECTLY: electric field, magnetic field, electromagnetic waves, electric, magnetic currents, etc. And nobody yet created a device to measure or to feel God, directly or indirectly. Thus, your comparison here is somewhat inappropriate.

[Gwandau]

Children dont have much of a chanse to find their own answers, as long parents/teachers
only present their version, their religion. You want the children to be good, but still you show
them religion as an answer to all problems, even the past show that religion will polarize people, (i am right and every other religion is wrong)
then they are willing to kill each other in their religions name, that is madness.

Critical thinking involve that you find solutions that work, if it dont work you trow it away and try something else.
When we believe and behave like we are separated from the creator we will kill each other over it, it simply dont work in the long run.

If we believe the creator is not separated from us, that we are all one, you are god also on a ride pretending to be a human. Then we realize we only
hurt our self when we hurt other people. Religion is drama that make us hide from what we really are. Religion is used as a tool to not having to take
responsibility for our lives.

Everything is consciousness, even a rock. Matter is made from consciousness, its just different levels of consciousness.
When science discover that everything is consciousness, religion will quickly try to own it bye saying my religion said that all the time.

The world today show us that there is something we do not understand. We have to seek understanding to rid pain. If we do not understand,
we can not do anything about it, the pain will then ofcourse continue, trying to tell us that there is something we need to understand. Its our ignorance that has to die if the pain shall go away.

Tommy

Tommy,

you are shooting far above the rigid heads of these fundamentalistic "true to the letter"-fanatics who all belive the universe is 5500 years old and who all are expecting a Doomsday treat to their favour any day now.

They have made their own prison of ignorance and calls it the temple of truth. They are their own wardens and gards, and the possibility to escape into freedom is extremely small, if possible at all.


Every idea or thought process that may threaten their illusion is either ignored or labeled as blasphemic. It is a water tight system, created many hundred years ago by a bunch of pre gnostic geniuses most likely on a horrendously bad trip.


Christianity thus has since long left what was a genuin understanding of the enlightened Jesus. Deformed into its own anti christ, hiding behind the facade of righteousness, propelling a twisted version of the pure and simple wisdom of Jesus into their dogmatic mental torture cells of guilt and fear, Christianity now are doing more harm than good, adding to the overall duality and splitting mechanisms effected upon humanity today.


Since these people observe the world through their multiple defracting layers of dogmatic filters, everything they see is but a projection forced upon reality to keep the Christian dogmatic fundament intact, so don't expect that anything you say might reach them in the originally intended form.


It's interesting to study for a while, but if the reason for your presence is compassion, the understanding of the predicament of these people unfortunately will make you somewhat sad.


Gwandau