Video of Original Walter Torbay Magnet Motor!

[mark australia]

I feel at best this device in priciple may work with no or little usable energy. As stated before I believe it also faces the problem of exhausting the magnets. (Liberty was spot on)
I was also dubiuos given the simplicity of the device that they were unable to run it in NY.
Having a look at the workmanship its a wonder it works at all unless assisted.
This device for now will collect dust on my filing system along with the other 30+ devices that failed to deliver on expectations.

This does not stop my enthusiastic persuit of other devices and ideas.

Lack of independent validation is the death nell for most machines. No independent validation (after patent protection or a signed NDA) then no go as far as I am concerned. There is no credible test data, independent validation, and a great deal of the BS as far as this device goes.

I feel it is iresponsible for these inventors to make the claims they do to the media. The indian waterpowered wheel free energy device is another great example of this. They claimed they had the ou hoodoo licked yet the one most important principle or function that had to be demonstated had not been built.

I am sorry I appear to be skeptical, I truely am an optomist, just so often disapointed.

Mark

[gn0stik]

Mark, Skepticism is healthy when researching free energy. If it were a bad thing, you'd be suckered into every ploy to come down the pike. And there are a lot of them. I put a lot of energy into the torbay threads, but it was necessary to come to this point. However, there is a lot of research that we have done that is worthwhile. Erik Vogel's work was interesting as he had an amazing amount of torque on the device he was playing with that was inspired by the torbay motor designs. Plenty to lift a stator. I hope he continues his work. Mechanical commutation is still in the realm of possibility if working with strong enough forces. This type of motor does not scale down well because of weight and friction considerations. If the stators were made of a very light alloy, or composite, or perhaps balsa with a thin coat of hard epoxy on the outside. It might reduce weight enough to allow lifting at that scale with smaller, weaker magnets.

Torbay's motor, in this video, anyway, is obviously a powered model as it wouldn't stop and start instantly as others have indicated. It would continue to turn until it found equilibrium at a sticking spot. Unless he has a brake that engages when he slides the stator out. Which I doubt, even then it would not start the way it does, it would "jump" into motion, not start in a smooth continuous manner with no acceleration time.

Also magnets when seeking equilibrium do not move slowly, they accelerate very fast to a consistent speed, which would be much faster than this even at it's slowest.

Anyway, healthy skepticism is a good thing. But don't let it hinder your interest or experimentation.

[mrd10]

Hi Guys,

Ive been reading all and seem to see one emerging patern...skeptisism. ....lol

Anyway to validate the claims go here and see what ive been upto:-  http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,933.new.html#new

Ive pasted some pics of what im working on, I thought since the only way to findout is to build one, i thought id go ahead and build one...lol

Call me nuts or crazy, but i think it maybe plausible that this could work, anyway ill give it ago, I've allocated once a week for some experimental time, my next project, I'm going to attempt steven marks power coil, from early vids of his first one theres not much in it, just looks like 2 seperate rings with magnets and wire wound.

Anyways,

You might find something out by being a kid again and thinking like one, thats where the adventure comes in
If you think like a kid, youd be amazed what you might observe and discover, Don't look at it being a full waste of your time, but rather what ive found out is that you pick up skills along the way, you learn how to build things, use formulas and make measurements and stuff so really you do learn from the experience, pull yourself away from the pc and do it.........lol

Mrd

[PaulLowrance]

You might find something out by being a kid again and thinking like one, thats where the adventure comes in
If you think like a kid, youd be amazed what you might observe and discover, Don't look at it being a full waste of your time, but rather what ive found out is that you pick up skills along the way, you learn how to build things, use formulas and make measurements and stuff so really you do learn from the experience, pull yourself away from the pc and do it.........lol

Mrd

That's a real powerful and true statement. It's something society discourages.

Keep up the good work!

Paul Lowrance

[giantkiller]

Hi all,
As long as the devices are in the physical reality made to move mechanically they will suffer from gravity.
Look at the progression from relay based devices to solid state. We got away from mechanical production, contact failure based on arcing, weight, lubricates, bearings. All fixes to resistance. Overunity in this area suffers the same.
When you move to solid state you get speed increase and field induction. Gravity is not a resistance factor any more but a usable power.
When you create a multifield interference, a magnetic bubble is created. And that  can be controlled. The higher the frequencies the higher the interferences. Check out http://www.americanantigravity.com/hutchison.html This is the reproduction of the Philadelphia experiment. It is very similar to lighter than air. If the interference is applied in the manner then you have a device the can levitate or change state. The proofs are out there.
I mention this because 'Clock mechanisms' won't cut it. Once again, gravity sucks.

Keep on truckin'