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Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

Started by 27Bubba, September 18, 2012, 02:17:22 PM

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Quote from: AlienGrey on June 05, 2016, 02:29:15 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tplRbd-fso

SCALAR WAVES:

Some comments about this video:
1.Reasoning:Money making
a. product cost about 800 Euro.

b.product is protected  with copy rights
 
  c.wording used by presenter Dr Konstantin Meyl   
http://www.meyl.eu/go/index.php?dir=10_Home&page=1&sublevel=0
     does not stand for his wealth of knowledge,  but looks like "amateur on     
     the move" who wants to grab some money based on        amusement of  even less educated  crowd.
     Words used to magnify  crowd attention are :  "Tesla", "many clients" "many universities and scientific institution"
     Assuming video was made in 2013  ( dr Mayl says 10 years passed  since 1999) than something  wrong is  with his math 
     No  significant language training was done during that time, to better
      subscribe the phenomena he was probably tutoring or maybe not?
      Dr Meyl is Ph.D so we should expect from him backing  it with  his scientific affiliation and scientific language used as well.
 
d. 10 years ?? ( it is 14 years) after 1999 and at 2013 there is no significant  progress or any progress other than just that they  changed  mechanically  form of the device  offered for sale.
           
     



conclusions to point 1
-from simple logical standpoint product for sale should be promoted- So we listening to the "salesman".
-there is  a lack of credible list of clients and scientific institution  and lack of their expressed opinions as a support of sale or support of its scientific  value( no evaluation)
- reasoning does not look  good for Dr  Meyl  .
- place used  for presentation looks like typical comforting cabin of the guy who has not much to do with  anything ,
but average Nordic form of relax. 
- there is  a lack of articles  supporting , contradicting, conforming or rejecting the idea or device or  device  concept.
(it looks like nobody  was moved to much  with it)
  in http://www.meyl.eu/go/index.php?dir=47_Papers&page=1&sublevel=0
we see no change  no addition nor revision standing for progress  directly related to  the device or its         
concept.


Biography:
- in http://www.k-meyl.de/go/25_Meyl/lebenslauf_meyl.pdf
we see impressive:
1984 Dr.-Ing. (Ph.D.) Promotion, Fakultät Elektrotechnik an der Universität Stuttgart.
This is  one of 9 leading German educational facilities.
However language used by Dr Meyl  looks like  "student of biology talking about electronics."





let's go to the video  step by step:
Please note that I do not judge anyone but simply point  mathematically at existing  reality  from the perspective of  typical scientific events documentary.!!!!!!!





2:07 mentioned about over 1000 customers :
what customers, what universities, what institutions  what medical hospitals?
where is prove of  any independent evaluation?


5:00 quote: the whole circuit is working as one oscillation circuit..
Yes he is right - even the wire  shape connecting RX and TX  causes frequency drift.


5:50
Dr Meyl does not know what frequency  the device is operating with or what is the frequency region in  kHz or Mhz .


6:13 Dr Meyl mentioned Tesla technique of  comprising resonance
( Wesley's comment :first you must  resonate than you can radiate)
Dr Meyl  does not point at any special benefit of half wave vs quarter  wave  resonance in regards to his device for sale.
He just throw  the information "down the drain"


6:29 Dr Meyl  narrow down   his sales  speech to 800 Euro for experimental kit.
( value of PCB material around 12 US dollars + 2 tripods  $3 each.)
( The TTL chip set of 7  for digital display $4.10)
1 Quartz resonator, resistor  and  LCD display $3.50.
Place on the top of it  $30 for labor miscellaneous and assembly.= ~~ $52= 45.84 euro.
That gives 800-45.84=754.16 Euro net profit.


10:09 Dr Meyl  specifies 4.02MHz frequency of  "hertzian resonance" ( transverse wave)


10:18 Dr Meyl talks about  resistance matching to 10 ohm ( I assume ) for AC circuit.
It sounds like he never heard about impedance, or the impedance matching between antenna and TX  output for Mr Meyl  is not important.
For those who cares -
Impedance is made out of 3 components and is based on given frequency .
Reactive C,
Reactive H
and
Resistance.


11:14 Dr Meyl  presents Traditional resonance ( transverse wave function )
We can not conclude it this is  series or parallel resonance
http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/alternating-current/chpt-6/resonance-series-parallel-circuits/
but we may assume that he is  operating in Near Field.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_and_far_field


12:18  Dr Meyl talks about Faraday cagehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage
Well  he did not use any Faraday Cage  to support his  concept.
He just used his hand  to "tune out" his device
But  now  the device  is one resonating  circuitry,that is   out  from resonance by changing  its capacitive and/or  inductive reactances ( or/end  coupling)


13:19 Dr Meyl for the first time talks about  current, voltage and  phase shift
( used wording phase in between) however he  is mentioning rectifier with no solid explanation.
(But OK  let's consider this comment - valuable )


13:32 I have problem with Dr Meyl explanation :
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/magfor.html
please look at http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/imgmag/lorfor.gif  or
https://www.pdx.edu/nanogroup/sites/www.pdx.edu.nanogroup/files/4-2-C__Relationship_between_the_E_and_B_fileds.pdf
The  easiest would be to look at: http://www.phys.utk.edu/courses/spring%202007/physics231/chapter27_part1.pdf
Quotequote: "The magnetic force is zero if the velocity is either parallel or anti-parallel to the magnetic field"-
but that does not  specify properties of Electromagnetic wave in respect to medium Near field /Far field.

End of part 1 of the comment




Wesley



=================================================================
Please note that I do not judge anyone but simply point  mathematically
at existing  reality  from the perspective of  typical scientific events documentary.!!!!!!! Wesley


Part 2 of the comment :

13:54 PIERS Proceedings,
Progress in electromagnetic research, Stockholm, Sweden, August 13, 2013
surprisingly at the conference dr Meyl was talking about Consequences of the Extended Field Theory,
so the device was just a toy used to entertain the crowd.!!!!!!,.
http://saltspacolorado.com/scalar-balancing/peer-reviewed-papers-by-prof-dr-ing-konstantin-meyl/


The conference did not show( or I did not find) any MIT support nor involvement in it.
One of the guests was Prof. John R. R. Searl:
http://www.guns.connect.fi/innoplaza/energy/conference/Weinfelden/
Very interesting group of "scientific  degenerates" or scientifically not recognized  or rejected individuals.


14:53 there is no prove provided .
It is just  evidence of  inductive and capacitive components that are now  excluded in that part of the circuitry
(  he can touch the metal ball-  now at any possible way.....)


The involvement of  the ball in impedance matching is minimized due to frequency change  -
FREQUENCY of 7.3MHZ  IS NOT RELATED TO HARMONICS PRODUCT OF THE FIRST TUNING
It was 4.1MHz and now is  7.3 MHz
Example :
Let's say  that you have
-10 dipole  antennas  connected to one 50 Ohm coaxial feeder.
-There is perfect SWR and perfect impedance match.... only now every dipole antenna  out of 10  antennas, is tuned to different frequency -
-Frequency of each antenna  is not corresponding to   possible mix  harmonic product. )
conclussion:
NONE OF 10 DIPOLES CAN SEE  EACH OTHER AND ONLY THAT ONE THAT IS RESONATING AT TUNED
FREQUENCY  IS NOW VISIBLE TO THE COAXIAL FEEDER LINE AND TRANSMITTER.
Picture 1: 
So till now I see  findings of Dr Meyl unsubstantiated .
Simple analogy guys. For small screw you use small screwdriver but for big one you use big screwdriver.
It would not work  otherwise. Got it?


16:14
here Dr Meyl start to make some important comments.quote:
"TX knows  if RX is on or off.".. and how many people  are listening to  the station (TX)
Dr Meyl did not provide any practical experiment  proving that there is any  difference in Tx based on 2 or 3 or 5 Rx stations listening.
He just said that this is what it is. Guys. I do not sale anything nor advertise my self with my scientific  achievement.
So I can make statements of any kind.
Dr. Meyl can only make statements increasing his profit  despite of the fact how real the comments are.
He is 64  years old now as a retired professor he doesn't care much about  anything.
Just few bucks more in the pocket.



16:52 Dr Meyl says about phase angle of 90 degrees  between current and voltage describing it as Near Field  properties of an antenna
And  state that  Near Field is typical property of Scalar Waves that is Longitudinal Wave
My understanding is that  Dr Meyl  comments  to this line of thinking are either:
a) misinformed,
b) ignorant of the science, Logically  Longitudinal Wave (LW)  can be a "body" that contains  substructure manifesting 
one or more  properties  of LW called now the  Scalar Wave.(SW)
However must  differ from LW    somehow.
We are being left  in the dark as to the relation between LW and SW in Dr Meyl brain?
Is SW part of LW or it is reverse.


17:13 Dr Meyl  explains Near Field by sending us to the text books :)
 
17:40 Dr Meyl says that his scalar Near Field is 10 times bigger  that typical EM Near Field. comparing it to Tesla expanded /extended Near field.
My question :
Are we talking about the same Near field  but only extended or Scalar  Wave (SW) uses its own Near Field? [/size]


20:10  Gush  quote:  .." relation of frequency is  identical to the relation  of the speeds?"
Yes nothing new....... no change in medium than there is no change in speed.
But if you talking about different mediums that question is :
-what speeds in what medium? ??? ??? ?
Please note guys that :  the frequency does not change   but the speed  varies thru the medium ( EM)
Yes  if he is talking about  LW than this article applies :
http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/waves/Lesson-2/The-Speed-of-a-Wave
but Tesla was not talking about  LW. He had not much of an idea what the difference 
is but Dr Meyl decided to   educate Mr Tesla long after his death :
http://www.k-meyl.de/go/Primaerliteratur/Scalar-Waves.pdf
There is none of  known to me scientific journals, that has published this paper of Dr Meyl.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Guys simple to understand is that  Dr Meyl did not change frequency and did not
change medium but
he tries to prove that his scalar Wave  has speed of 1.5 times of speed of light???????????????????????????


19:45
QuoteDr Meyl calculations (the prove is what Tesla said,,.....
Yeh Tesla said... Yeah...... Do not dare to question it............ yeah


19:49 - when? what source to look  for?


21:10
QuoteQuote "report from Austria from University" what University?
, what report? where to find it?


27:17] Dr Meyl presents unknown publication in unnamed book  in German as a prove of something.
He is mentioning Nottingham  University paper inside his book , pointing at  book he holds in his hands..
Undocumented 500% efficiency is reported by Dr Meyl I hope book sales good as well.


28:50  Dr Meyl calls  his device Energy Harvester with 110% of overunity from 10 mW 
But he  got me lost  in the process... You going to get lost as well. And that is given .


29:10  DR Meyl did not provide the answer to :
What is the coupling mechanism and what is the form of energy from environment that can be utilized by Dr Meyl "Energy Harvester"?
How the  mechanism works?


29:30 Dr Meyl talks about Oveunity
Please memorize guys once  for you  entire Life.
THERE IS NO AND THERE WILL BE NO OVERUNITY EVER. THERE IS NO FREE LUNCH. .
That what is free lunch for you is the expense to someone. and if you do not care than you got your overunity.
OVERUNITY IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN $10 YOU HAVE HAD IN YOUR POCKED AND $100 THAT YOU FOUND ON THE STREET.
Overunity" can be for us  coming from  utilization of the energy that is free of tax and expenses.
(e'g. Solar ,Gravity, some forms of :Kinetic and potential energy, external force,  preexisting dis-balance of  forces ,  inertia force)


30:20 Dr Meyl says more or less that Tesla could not use energy sources  utilized by dr Meyl.
because the sources have not been there at Tesla time . ...
So what was  there than? and are you found Dr Meyl new form of collecting existing  energy from  RF sources?
remember Russians powering houses out of strong Russian propaganda stations using just  piece of wire  of the length  of 1/4 y of frequency of that transmitter.


32:26 Dr Meyl talks about Tesla Colorado Springs tower
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Experimental_Station

32:33 Dr Mel talks about noise>>> the Ground Noise level
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_noise or rather about Cosmic Noise level.>>>> 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_noisehe did not specify it very precisely.
However he mentioned square root of the noise  vs frequency In electronic devices we would talk about
this:http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/32257/noise-and-what-does-v-%E2%88%9Ahz-actually-mean
Root Mean square uncertainty (RMS noise) very interesting graphics:
http://ridl.cfd.rit.edu/products/training/Detectors%20465%2020083/Lecture/Lecture%2011-Noise/Lecture%20Noise.ppt



32:49 Dr  Meyl  quote: "Scalar Wave can be measured in value of antenna noise
]" Military unclasified : https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=
0ahUKEwi1kPvH75PNAhUH64MKHVDZBioQFggcMAA&url=
http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dtic.mil%2Fdtic%2Ftr%2Ffulltext%2Fu2%
2F265414.pdf&usg=AFQjCNENXU930djsaiXsGUTXrzZGS5vCbg&sig2
=onHAhk2yPMRv9W2xoZFlJw&bvm=bv.123664746,d.amc

I assume he was talking about receiver RX antenna.


32:33Dr Meyl talks about  frequency vs energy per period.
However he is incapable to even  name it  this way. so
I must to do it for him.
But by that his 800 Euro toy  with 7 MHz 
frequency region  is useless .
just skip this one: http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/waves/Lesson-2/Frequency-and-Period-of-a-Wave
look here:             https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_spectrum
and here :            http://earthsky.org/space/what-is-the-electromagnetic-spectrum


34:00
lorentz contraction:
http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/14362/help-me-gain-an-intuitive-understanding-of-lorentz-contraction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rek7881OGRY
http://www.alternativephysics.org/book/LengthContraction.htm


34:12 Withe Noise:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_noise

34:40
Vortex - bullishness till  more accurate specified  just  not even worth my time spend.


34:59 Scalar Wave  is now  named  an Electric Energy  Wave  that transmits Electric Energy.
            Dr Meyl  uses  quite wrong and  unfortunate set of words.
              http://sciencelearn.org.nz/Science-Stories/Tsunamis-and-Surf/Waves-as-energy-transfer


35:12 Electric field transfer:  quote"Ball to ball" 
please skip that: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/capsph.html


end of part   2
of the comment

Wesley
==========================================================================

Part 3 of the comment:
Electric and magnetic fields are created by charged particles - electric field is not  a particle but  a  property of given state at  given time frame.
It is hard for me to see electric field  as not related ( separated) and traveling by itself .
But you can  give me some advice if you will.




36:33 Dr Meyl is concerned about  the same problem Tesla had with JP Morgan in 1896 lack  of control over the energy.
               https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._P._Morgan
               http://customers.hbci.com/~wenonah/new/tesla.htm


40:59 He presents more power  transfer by applying  an amplifier


43:31
Dr Meyl shows  significance  of having amplifier in the setup ( for me it is sales speech) 479,00 EUR incl. 19 % Tax excl.Shipping costs.
http://www.k-meyl.de/xt_shop/index.php?cat=c5_Kits---Devices.html&XTCsid=d94e42b65252b38b4c5080bfa94af36c


44:49 now you can see( with amplifier  some of ionized gas of fluorescent lightbulb)


53:30  Dr Meyl point  into  unspecified unnamed and unchecked   "Biological Benefits"
by pointing  the orientation of magnetic field on the Tesla Coli driven by 2V++ unknown, not described to us  amplifier.


54:47 instruction of how to apply medical biological "something " in order to see "something else" Sorry guys NO LINKS here. ....


56:36 field  vortexes   scalar wave Again use it with skepticism
           http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.502.5032&rep=rep1&type=pdf
there are no other  sources available  for me...
only dr Meyl...... can you believe?
The only one dr Meyl...



56:52
DrMeyl speculates over antenna gain  role in  """amplifying """" original power output of  the transmitter.
            Please skip that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antenna_gain
             go here:             https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVOo-miuIFQ


58:03 "damaging effect of Electromagnetic Waves" >>
Guys there IS NO damaging effect other than heat in close proximity few mm. 
In Lithuania Experiment I was  dealing with NMR and possibly decaying  doped structure of that very specific ferrite.
There have been also very much  significant vibrations present however we did not  established its direct impact  to the health of the  participants.


1:01:29 Wave Equation : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_equation
                                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ck-r_qmNNG0
                                           
this one is classical so do not get confused  with the other two links :http://galileo.phys.virginia.edu/classes/252/Classical_Waves/Classical_Waves.html


1:01:40 The Laplace Equation and Wave Equation
http://www.springer.com/cda/content/document/cda_downloaddocument/9781441970541-c1.pdf?SGWID=0-0-45-1015080-p174035270
dr Meyl  mixes up  classical mechanic  with  quantum mechanics of Electromagnetic Waves EM.
  I have nothing against  any  social or sexual orientation even if it  couples in physics..
  Just tell me  how  and what technique  is  being  employed . I need to know how to separate trash from another trash 
   with hope that I can find something  valuable in it. Everything is possible guys



This is end of evaluation of Dr Meyl Scalar Wave  commercial device
Please note that  I have spend 7 hours of my day time just to go  to the end of this   one hour long video.
Judge it  for yourself




Wesley

NickZ

  Any ways, I've been studying up on the Poma self runner device. I'm most intrigued, as it looks like the secret to Kapanadze,
as developed by Poma, in his own way. However, his version is much lighter and simpler, using only a simple Kacher circuit, as the input source signal, when running on a 12v car battery.
Or even running on it's own power, (from where ever), the ambient possibly, even without the car battery.
   
   Poma has shown that he has more than one version of circuit designs, and they all work as shown.
So, that may also mean that there is more than one way to go about this.  Hopefully, this is no fake.
   
   Ed had asked for a schematic. Well, the only diagrams I've seen are these two below.
   If any one has any more info, or up updates from Poma, please let us know.
   
   Common guys, the secret is before your eyes... It's only Kacher powered.
   Can't we crack this nut???  It has no high tech anything,  so simple...

SolarLab

F.Y.I.

Re: Professor Meyl, please also review these video lectures and support discussion before forming a final opinion! He appears to have spent considerable thought and effort on the subject and is very well respected in a number of circles.

SCALAR WAVES (LONGITUDINAL) and Meyl's free energy postulate [see 55:10]:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFtU4FVpXVs
Neutrinopower and the Existance of Scalar Waves Konstantin Meyl) (2004) [1:04:05]

... free energy source and explanation, according to Meyl, discussed starting at around 55:00 ...

Another video also around 2004, where Meyl discusses Scalar Waves and demonstrates these waves with an apparatus he designed and fabricated:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3dCRmwfZss
Konstantin Meyl Power Engineering Scalar Field Theory Faraday vs Maxwell and Demonstration of Longitudinal Waves [1:48:11]

Also, an Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE) March 28, 2011 Hamilton Ontario Presentation:

A series of videos from 2011 where Steve Jackson (IEEE Hamilton Ontario Chapter) discusses Scalar Waves (Longitudinal Waves) and demonstrates Meyl's apparatus. Steve later went on to develop a DYI workshop to build a low cost device; including the technical details.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs-2s85lO6o
  - 20110324185908 (1).mpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4kvJpUgGKI 
  - 20110324185908 (2).mpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YXPa73NNsA
  - 20110324185908 (3).mpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqhRDY56CqU
  - 20110324185908 (4).mpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1Ht5OVyI5Q
  - 20110324185908 (5).mpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuehDylES_A
- 20110324185908 (6).mpg

FIN

MenofFather

Quote from: NickZ on June 06, 2016, 11:30:08 PM
  Any ways, I've been studying up on the Poma self runner device. I'm most intrigued, as it looks like the secret to Kapanadze,
as developed by Poma, in his own way. However, his version is much lighter and simpler, using only a simple Kacher circuit, as the input source signal, when running on a 12v car battery.
Or even running on it's own power, (from where ever), the ambient possibly, even without the car battery.
   
   Poma has shown that he has more than one version of circuit designs, and they all work as shown.
So, that may also mean that there is more than one way to go about this.  Hopefully, this is no fake.
   
   Ed had asked for a schematic. Well, the only diagrams I've seen are these two below.
   If any one has any more info, or up updates from Poma, please let us know.
   
   Common guys, the secret is before your eyes... It's only Kacher powered.
   Can't we crack this nut???  It has no high tech anything,  so simple...
I change my mind. This seems fake.

justawatt

The scheme attached seem to be the working of poma free energy device NICKZ ,the circuit is from http://cyberenergy.ru/ website ,ever since this circuit was posted in their site ,it went offline.since then the website didnt work.

It was said one man seed 2000 $ to him ,in return he got this circuit.

And there is a talk in http://realstrannik.com website , a users friend has send 5000 $ ,he is waiting for the circuit and device from ,once he get the circuit he promised to share the circuit and replication of this device in the site.

Mean time someone who can read and understand Russian ,can translate what is return the circuit that i shared .

we may not knw if it is fake or real ,but lets give a try,
please someone translate this for us in overunity.com