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Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

Started by 27Bubba, September 18, 2012, 02:17:22 PM

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Jeg

Quote from: AlienGrey on February 22, 2018, 09:43:24 AM
Lets have a look at the eternal Katcher coil and published circuit,
wonderful isn't it! It lights up neons, florescent tubes to a dim glow
JUST LIKE MOON LIGHT!  ;D.
We are so easily led up the garden path by the so called Masters showing working devices off.

Allen

Obviously he didn't set his trigger line to the right level, or his ground clip is disconnected and the scope doesn't have a proper reference for drawing the wave. ;)

stivep

Quote from: SolarLab on February 19, 2018, 10:23:13 AM
F.Y.I.

Good observation - using high voltage pulses to "fill" a capacitor (in the form of a helical coil)
with "electrons."  Recall around 1775 Alessandro Volta named the device "Electtroforo Perpetuo."
Charge it once and it provides a "perpetual" charge.  The idea was already developed from
experiments by Wilcke in Sweden around 1762.

The next challenge is to "extract" the excess electrons from this "capacitor-coil" without
rendering it's sequential effect inefficient while still providing an output in the form of
"conventional electricity." Hint; conventional current (electron) flow removal from the device
will result in back electromotive force (B-EMF) if conventional methods are used.

The coil is made as "non-inductive" as possible for good reason but must remain in "coil" form to
facilitate electron extraction and conversion to conventional "hot" electrical form (electrons
passing "through" a wire) in order to complete the system.

Therefore, other techniques must be employed; for example, bi-filar winding or other asymmetric
means. The source of excess electrons is isolated, to a great extent, by nature of electrophoretics;
but that's only half the requirement. The extraction-conversion process is worthy of equal,
or even more, consideration; as is cost and safety.

The (a) "output" can not disturb the "input," the scheme (b) has to be extremely efficient,
and should be (c) very stable; even when considering environmental effects (changes in humidity
and temperature, for example, as well as variations in output loading - current draw).

It's also worth noting that Tesla used high voltage to charge a metal plate, at some distance, and
then extract electrons (current) from that plate through a ground connection. Coating the plate
with dielectric may have helped retard the loss of acquired electrons into the atmosphere.

Anyway, just some humble, simplified thoughts! I'm sure there must be more to it...  ;)

FIN

I do appreciate your comment but  language you use is completely 100% convoluted.
(extremely complex and difficult to follow.)

I  try to process ...... whatever you have had in mind while you wrote the text in question
So questions  I have:
1.
Quoteusing high voltage pulses to "fill" a capacitor (in the form of a helical coil)
with "electrons."  Recall around 1775 Alessandro Volta named the device "Electtroforo Perpetuo."
Charge it once and it provides a "perpetual" charge.  The idea was already developed from
experiments by Wilcke in Sweden around 1762.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alessandro_Volta
1a. I could not find revelations you talking about please provide link
1b.
Electtroforo Perpetuo." means in Latin  Electtroforo forever that indicates perpetual motion.
No such thing was ever associated with  Alexander Volta. Please respond if you have source of such information.

2 .
What you mean by word  "rendering"  is it   one of  listed below?  and if yes than point at it.
rendering artrendering architecturerendering videorendering in constructionrendering services meaningrendering interior design
Quote"extract" the excess electrons from this "capacitor-coil" without
rendering it's sequential effect inefficient while still providing an output in the form of
"conventional electricity." Hint; conventional current (electron) flow removal from the device
will result in back electromotive force (B-EMF) if conventional methods are used.
the quote above  needs for you to use different words and different structure as
I do not see any sense in it.

3.
QuoteThe coil is made as "non-inductive" as possible for good reason but must remain in "coil" form to
facilitate electron extraction and conversion to conventional "hot" electrical form (electrons
passing "through" a wire) in order to complete the system.
Can  you differentiate between word "hot" electrical form and I assume the opposite of it cold
The sentence  needs to be  presented using different words to  become  widely understood can you do it?

4.
QuoteThe (a) "output" can not disturb the "input,
"  why?
Quotethe scheme (b) has to be extremely efficient
why? and what efficiency you have in mind,
Quoteand should be (c) very stable;
in what terms stable  please provide details?
Quoteeven when considering environmental effects (changes in humidity
How humidity and temperature,affects the circuit? Is it reactive in nature ?
Please provide  specific answer.

5.
QuoteIt's also worth noting that Tesla used high voltage to charge a metal plate, at some distance, and
then extract electrons (current) from that plate through a ground connection. Coating the plate
with dielectric may have helped retard the loss of acquired electrons into the atmosphere.
Meaning of word retard
Retard is a delay or hold back in terms of progress, development, or accomplishment.
Retard was also used for  AC current in Tesla time.

Static electricity has nothing to do with AC. The only AC present in electrostatically charged   body is during  delta T  of charge   and delta T of discharge.
So AC there is related to time of change.

Please  explain processes you  where  describing in  quote from above.
Please use language that can be recognized as  valuable and widely accepted in physics world and/or
in form that can be  compared to  physical phenomena  known to skilled in art.
There is no requirement to be physicist or educated in physics but overall information should be "readable" in brackets of  Common sense -(good sense and sound judgment in practical matters.)

Summary:
I do appreciate your contribution to this forum  however if a content will be  found "out of  merits"
It may  spark objections of the fine public here.
By that  Stefan may be ask to remove it  including  an author account.
"I hope it is not the case"
If you feel  more comfortable to use different language please operate in this language and  I will be happy to make  any sense  out of it.
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Wesley

Belfior

Quote from: stivep on February 23, 2018, 10:31:56 PM

1b. [/b]Electtroforo Perpetuo." means in Latin  Electtroforo forever that indicates perpetual motion.
No such thing was ever associated with  Alexander Volta. Please respond if you have source of such information.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrophorus

"For this reason Volta called it elettroforo perpetuo (the perpetual electricity bearer)"

stivep

Quote from: Belfior on February 24, 2018, 07:14:03 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrophorus

"For this reason Volta called it elettroforo perpetuo (the perpetual electricity bearer)"

Quote from  Volta
Quote"generatore elettrostatico in grado di accumulare una modesta quantità di carica elettrica in modo discontinuo. Ideato da Alessandro Volta intorno al 1775 durante i suoi studi sull'elettricità e citato nella "Lettera a Priestley", ha attualmente utilità didattica. "
Translation from volta into  English
electrostatic generator able to accumulate a small amount of electric charge in a discontinuous way. Conceived by Alessandro Volta around 1775 during his studies on electricity and cited in the "Letter to Priestley", he currently has didactic utility.

there is no word  - Perpetuo. in that  original text
The title of an article   differs  from  text under the title .
the word associated with "generatore elettrostatico" is  grado and not  perpetuo
I think that  explains  controversy around indication of perpetual motion

word continuous   in latin is :continui
word discontinuous in latin is: proiciente relictum

So  hee it is just  a wording  of an author of a text :
"L'elettroforo perpetuo, detto anche elettroforo di Volta è un generatore elettrostatico in grado di accumulare una modesta quantità di carica elettrica in modo discontinuo. Ideato da Alessandro Volta intorno al 1775 durante i suoi studi sull'elettricità e citato nella "Lettera a Priestley", ha attualmente utilità didattica. "
but  I did not find historical confirmation of that wording , or association  of Volta with  Perpetuo.



I appreciate  your comment


Wesley

AlienGrey

Wesley please cast your eye over this video, it involves what appears to be a capacitor in a space age silver suite,
could this be any thing to do with the last page and its comments.

An inquisitive interest only if it is viable or not your interest is valid.

Allen Grey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldfRZecE1IA