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Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

Started by 27Bubba, September 18, 2012, 02:17:22 PM

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NickZ

  Starcruiser:
   As mentioned I'm working on a replication of an already existing device, which already has all the needed information on coils winds, antenna specs, and all other information needed. But, as my driver circuits are not the same as the Ruslan device, nor Akula's, my actual running frequencies all also not the same.  This is what I'm trying to sort out, and tune to for the illusive syncronization factor that will allow for the extra power to be able to come into the device, and out to the load bulbs.

  Glyla: Thanks again for your reply.
     Here is the rest of the info on that same device that I linked to previously. Although it's more than I can chew on, with my knowledge of electronics.
     My question, although it seams like nobody can properly answer it, is, can this PWM be used in place of my push-pull Mazilli driver, (or with it), to power the yoke/grenade crt, to about 27.000mhz. And, also with an adjustable duty cycle.
  The Kacher driver crt can be a cheaper version of something like this, as well.
http://www.rmcybernetics.com/files/pdf/PWM-OCXiv2.pdf

lost_bro

Quote from: NickZ on May 09, 2015, 06:42:06 PM
  Starcruiser:
   As mentioned I'm working on a replication of an already existing device, which already has all the needed information on coils winds, antenna specs, and all other information needed. But, as my driver circuits are not the same as the Ruslan device, nor Akula's, my actual running frequencies all also not the same.  This is what I'm trying to sort out, and tune to for the illusive syncronization factor that will allow for the extra power to be able to come into the device, and out to the load bulbs.

  Glyla: Thanks again for your reply.
     Here is the rest of the info on that same device that I linked to previously. Although it's more than I can chew on, with my knowledge of electronics.
     My question, although it seams like nobody can properly answer it, is, can this PWM be used in place of my push-pull Mazilli driver, (or with it), to power the yoke/grenade crt, to about 27.000mhz. And, also with an adjustable duty cycle.
  The Kacher driver crt can be a cheaper version of something like this, as well.
http://www.rmcybernetics.com/files/pdf/PWM-OCXiv2.pdf

Hi NickZ

OK, the short answer: NO

The Mazzilli circuit works through self-resonant feedback (determined by L/C values).  It is this feedback that 'tunes' the gate drive signal to resonance.  It is this resonance that permits the Mazzilli to do what it does........

If the Mazzilli is driven out of resonance, (ie: by a pwm controller that does NOT incorporate feedback) than it will not function the same as the
Mazzilli you now have. In fact it may not function at all.  At best you will have an ordinary push-pull type converter *not* operating @ resonance.

All these circuits by Ruslan and most by Akula use some type of *feedback* to control the drive signal.  They do this for a reason, and the reason is *not* because they like designing overly complicated electronic circuits.  It appears that the design is attempting to track some signal timing event, hence the use of feedback.

There is a learning curve associated with PLL design, but Allega has posted some interested designs that in my opinion have some decent engineering involved.
When I have the time, I will replicate one of the last designs that was posted here about a week or so ago.

I would recommend to try to build a drive circuit with feedback as that is what Ruslan / Akula are using to accomplish what they are doing :o

take care, peace
lost_bro

TinselKoala


Hoppy

Quote from: NickZ on May 09, 2015, 06:42:06 PM
 
     My question, although it seams like nobody can properly answer it, is, can this PWM be used in place of my push-pull Mazilli driver, (or with it), to power the yoke/grenade crt, to about 27.000mhz. And, also with an adjustable duty cycle.
  The Kacher driver crt can be a cheaper version of something like this, as well.
http://www.rmcybernetics.com/files/pdf/PWM-OCXiv2.pdf

Nick,

The spec you posted a link to, clearly states that maximum frequency is 1.5MHz and can run up to 2MHz but at the risk of overheating the control circuit components. Also, note the current v frequency graph showing a big drop off of current handling at around 500KHz.

If you wish to progress with the project, my advice is that you should learn more about electronics by way of attempting to build the PWM circuit modules shown by Akula / Ruslan and use a scope to look at the waveforms. After all, I assumed that you are trying to replicate their devices, so should not be deviating by using a different commercially available PWM modules of different design. Develop your electronic knowledge and circuit building skills so that you can gain a better understanding of the various circuit schematics and in turn feel more confident to construct the circuits presented by Akula / Ruslan. You are trying to run before you can walk!

magpwr

Quote from: Hoppy on May 10, 2015, 04:30:21 AM
Nick,

The spec you posted a link to, clearly states that maximum frequency is 1.5MHz and can run up to 2MHz but at the risk of overheating the control circuit components. Also, note the current v frequency graph showing a big drop off of current handling at around 500KHz.

If you wish to progress with the project, my advice is that you should learn more about electronics by way of attempting to build the PWM circuit modules shown by Akula / Ruslan and use a scope to look at the waveforms. After all, I assumed that you are trying to replicate their devices, so should not be deviating by using a different commercially available PWM modules of different design. Develop your electronic knowledge and circuit building skills so that you can gain a better understanding of the various circuit schematics and in turn feel more confident to construct the circuits presented by Akula / Ruslan. You are trying to run before you can walk!

hi Hoppy and everyone else,

It's been a another exhausting weekend once again due to many combination of Kapanadze testing which produce strange power consumption which defy my current understanding with a 60watt bulb.
Because  power meter reading shows 49watt....52watt without bulb  and 63watt with 60watt bulb connected while nanosecond generator is in operation.

Kapanadze coil spec-

Final Kapanadze winding
started with 50 for the 1st layer then followed by 48,24,23,13 and finally 12 for the 6th layer.

Multilayer winding inductance reading     158uH
4 Layer of 24 turns inductance reading 310uH
Ratio 310/158= 1.962 (2:1)

0.1uf 1000volts or 2000volts capacitor is a requirement across bulb or before full bridge rectifier regardless with PWM or PLL circuit for optimal output.
By connecting 0.1uf capacitor the resonance base on signal generator between 28turns from toroid and multilayer coil is 14.56khz
The resonance is also around 14.5khz between 0.47uf HV WIMA capacitor  from 3 turns from toroid to nearly 90turns.

The above measurement taken without bulb connected which i found produce highest voltage around "29khz" using PWM generator.
Take note i need to tune PWM generator at 2 x the resonance at both coils which is at around 14.5khz with no bulb.

At this point nanosecond generator is operating to produce pulse around 5...7KV at both upper and lower peak of sine wave which is present across 0.1uf capacitor in parallel with bulb.
Bottom of my tesla coil is connected to Earth along with the 2 other connection one after 3 turns and one from bulb.There is only 3 connection to Earth excluding the Battery negative supply.


Upon connecting 60watt 220volt bulb across the 0.1uf capacitor i would need to set PWM generaotor at 35khz for maximum output.If i am using PLL this frequency will be automatically be adjusted according to load.

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My previous experiment without kapanadze coil done around last week revealed that i was able to get rectified dc voltage as high as 340volts from 28turns from the toroid.
The 3 turns on toroid was connected to battery negative and Earth for my test setup since there is current movement detected.
I do own 2 yoke core purchased from a Russian seller in ebay which produce 320volts for the similar test setup.

My finding revealed that nanosecond pulse merely allow me to get decent voltage as high as 340volts which was recitified via Diy full-bridge recitifier.

Conclusion -Nanosecond pulse 50ns...60ns merely gave me voltage i need but without  the amps since i was merely running at 15khz...30khz for the test tesla coil setup.

In theory i may able to get current +voltage across 3turns to 28turns to self sustain this device if i am pulsing this tesla coil at 1.7Mhz...1.8Mhz resonance frequency which tally with
my current multilayer coil.
Current across 28turns on toroid or yoke  base on my unconfirmed theory would be increased by around 60times since frequency is increased by around 60times from around 27khz.

Next planned experiment to create a standalone 2Mhz tesla coil with pulse which will then be connected to Antenna via 5 turns cw,ccw on ferrite rod which will then reduce default resonance frequency.
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Nanosecond pulse findings-

Many people may not realize this it seems Akula does knows how to generate around 5ns pulse which was revealed in one of his videos in youtube with a circuit provided.

Experiment with another project 10ns generator set at 1KV out using lower voltage if combine with the
5 turns clockwise and anti clockwise on ferrite rod
revealed that the ferrite rod does boost nanosecond pulse without manipulating the pulse shape except increasing the pulse amplitude.

If i connect my ferrite rod with 5 turns cw,ccw to my nanosecond generator i am able to get 1.6KV pulse from the other end of ferrite rod up from 1KV pulse.That's 60% increase.

At this point i would to add that i am still unable to see spark from the end of ferrite rod if i use test pen at under 10KV pulse.
I am not sure if i can ever achieve around 32KV(Base on Akula Russian with translated document as attached once more) nanosecond pulse with 1000volts as i am currently stuck at around 7KV using 300volts which is the limit for my 1.2KV Cree SIC mosfet with Russian KT226D diode 800volts rated connected from mosfet drain.

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Lastly this experiments are not meant for beginners or armatures or electronics nuts.