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Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

Started by 27Bubba, September 18, 2012, 02:17:22 PM

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Dog-One

Quote from: John.K1 on July 31, 2015, 07:48:12 AM
Who is native russian speaking here ? I need to know what ruslan said about the direction of the pick up coil and current coil in his last movie I posted here earlier. I had problem to understand if he said they both are wound in the same or opposite direction. I have such feeling he said they are opposite ?

Someplace I saw Ruslan mention that you may have to reverse the polarity of the induction heater coil.  I'm assuming from the common schematic we have been working from.

I had to do this with my setup.  I was unable to discern from the video why this may be necessary.  I just tried it to see if I could achieve better tuning.  When I reversed it, I could get much higher output from the grenade coil.  I also saw an interesting phenomena...

When I would slowly sweep the frequency from low-to-high and then back, high-to-low, the amplitude would peak at a higher value going to low-to-high, than it would going back high-to-low.  The sine wave during the sweep would have a rolling motion to it.  For lack of a better word, I called it a pumping action.  Still not sure what this means or how it is happening.  I thought at first it must have something to do with the amperage draw and the intensity of the lamp connected.  I simply don't know, but felt it may be important.

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As for the magnetostriction via thermal manipulation concept currently being discussed, I can only say this...

If you have balanced coils connected together in somewhat of a bucking style arrangement, it only takes a very slight change in inductance of one coil to make a huge change in the total inductance of both coils.  Right?  Steady state the two coils are equal and opposite, meaning the total inductance is very small or near zero.  If you change one of them just a little bit, the balance is gone and now you have a total inductance equal to the difference of the two individual inductances.  So lets say you go from 0.1uH to 100uH.  This is a 3 orders of magnitude change; more than enough to take advantage of parametric oscillations.  So how might we cause this change and do it several thousand times per second?

First, lets consider the core.  If we have air cores for both coils, what happens when we hit just one of them with a high voltage impulse, just short of creating a corona?  There likely will be some heating of the air in that location.  How much heating is needed to change the inductive properties of the coil wrapped around that volume of air?  This heating we speak of, is it just a couple of degrees, tenths of a degree?  What is the tolerance necessary to make a significant change to the inductance of the coil?  If it is small, then the ambient cooling during off-time should be more than adequate to return the inductance back to steady state in micro-seconds.

I'm thinking if Akula can do this rapidly in ferrite, doing it in air should be even easier.  I suspect the trade-off is this:  In ferrite the changes happen slower, but the total change of inductance is larger.  Either way works.  The main requirement for the air core method is that you need a pair of tightly balanced coils to start with.  The better they are balanced, the smaller steady state inductance you start with, which means the larger overall change you can get.  If you can nailed down these factors, one should be able to design around it an optimal parametric oscillator.

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There is also another way to approach this, consider the copper wire...

Copper is diamagnetic right?  Meaning is has magnetic properties, but they are just on the other side of the scale.  Aluminum could also be tossed into this category.  When you wind a coil, certainly the magnetic properties of the wire you use contribute to the inductance of the coil you wound.  It seems very reasonable to me if you can find a thermal "sweet spot" in this material where just a small change in temperature makes a significant change in the magnetic properties, you can also make a significant change in the inductance.  Take this back to the balanced coils and parametric oscillator and again you have a method for power amplification.  All you need to control is the conditions in which it takes a very slight input to manipulate the magnetic properties of the material.


Having said all this, I don't know if any of it is the actual operating principal to the Ruslan device.  I'm not even sure Ruslan know exactly what makes his device operate.  He may think he does but actually be a level or two of abstraction away from the fundamental principal.  Akula on the other hand seems to have a much firmer grasp of the material science and is probably describing to us something we should consider and take advantage of.

Hoppy

Quote from: John.K1 on July 31, 2015, 12:58:42 PM

Just as a bit push, watch this movie. I think I took it from Ruslan's YouTube collection. There are three parts and it is quite interesting to watch it. Especially the part #3. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAoo7u1KVSU

This maybe a more worthwhile replication project to observe the 'effect'. However, his I/O power claims are iffy and do not appear to be based on good measurement.

NickZ

  I'm not too impressed by the output of the incandescent bulb on that video, either. Not outputting 25 watts worth of light, more like 15 watts worth of output (lumins) to the bulb if that, from a 27 watt input.
  Kacher circuits are generally current hogs, unlike the Exciter circuits.

  Hoppy: Any suggestions as to how to go about connecting the HV Kacher coils to the output of the grenade directly, without the kacher driver circuit. A direct connection from the 168 turns coil, to the primary coil of the Kacher, (the secondary coil still being connected just the same.  What would happen? Should I just connect it up and see??? That's what I'm interested in doing, as my kacher even running on 24v is not anything to write home about, and my transistor heats up, as well. No strong plasma, just a 1 to 2 mm stream. At least it will stream now, unlike when running on 12v, it would only spark, but would not stream.
  I'm trying replicate the effect that Ruslan is showing when he puts his finger on the Kacher's output, If possible.

John.K1

Hi Hoppy,

I do not think we need to replicate this as the Ruslan's device is already advanced replication of it ( I guess). I just like to see that evolution in the Ideas, and that Idea IS inherited in Ruslan's device.  Injecting current (or voltage?)pulse in right time. Ruslan just improved it by proper synchronisation, adding better antenna, pulse generator etc... But the main principle is still same. And this is what we need to understand. Without it we will be not able to replicate the "effect".  Blind replication without understanding of process is going nowhere.

Nick, the output in the above video is not impressive, but maybe if he connected proper grounding using thick cable of propper length maybe he could get out much more. That is why we need to experiment. Ruslan  and other guys on Russian forum they  recomend to use welding cable for grounding because a Litz type?


One or Two more things: Ruslan said that Dali (or what ever you spell that) device is perfectly fine, and people wasn't able to replicate it because we do not understand tuning process.  And regarding to tuning processes it is quite very educative to watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP6HMQneNDU

Becouse in Russian some comment for you ;)  :   

coil L1 (emitter - yellow)   coil L2+capacitor (receiver -blue)
@ 2:25 He puts signal on L1 and makes a distance between coils.
He finds resonance and read the offset - here is 90 deg
@5:59 he watch the offset at resonance when distance is shorter - here is now 23deg
He speaks about the effect of the secondary magnetic field
@7:20 he shows currents (using 2 ohm resistors)
Current doesn't change with distance (just with frequency)

Make conclusions ;)  ........

BTW:
@5:00 Coils they have Induction behaviour till resonance
@5:05 Active behaviour at resonance
@5:12 capacitive behaviour after resonance





Hoppy

Quote from: NickZ on July 31, 2015, 04:16:55 PM

  Hoppy: Any suggestions as to how to go about connecting the HV Kacher coils to the output of the grenade directly, without the kacher driver circuit. A direct connection from the 168 turns coil, to the primary coil of the Kacher, (the secondary coil still being connected just the same.  What would happen? Should I just connect it up and see??? That's what I'm interested in doing, as my kacher even running on 24v is not anything to write home about, and my transistor heats up, as well. No strong plasma, just a 1 to 2 mm stream. At least it will stream now, unlike when running on 12v, it would only spark, but would not stream.
  I'm trying replicate the effect that Ruslan is showing when he puts his finger on the Kacher's output, If possible.

Nick,

If you use the rectified output from the grenade, I suspect that you will just fry your transistor. You should be able through tuning to get the output lamps to pulse on and off as I did just by touching the Kacher's output with it supplied at 24V. To do this you will ideally need a push-pull PWM oscillator in place of your Mazilli. The flashing / pulsing effect we see in Ruslan's and Urfa's videos is caused by feedback affecting the push-pull output transistors. This is probably why you do not see the 'effect' when using a Mazilli oscillator. Importantly, there is nothing significant about this effect / anomaly, in that it necessarily suggests a device is close to self-running.