Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

[verpies]

It is a measure from collector to emitter of one E13009.

The measure  from collector to emitter is a voltage measurement and it is not very informative.
Please measure the current waveform to uncover what is going on inside the T2 transformer.

[Hoppy]

Whilst working on the Dally circuit today, I made an interesting observation. I connected a 14W rated flouro lamp directly to one of my mains transformer 110v secondary windings via a bridge rectifier and 8uF non-polarised smoothing cap similar to Dally's inverter DC rail. The most efficient operating frequency was around 4.6KHz with the lamp running on a 12.5V supply voltage to the inverter! Coincidence maybe but if the ATX PSU was not connected, the lamp would illuminate and could be maintained illuminated with a hidden secondary 12V battery connection. The supply voltage was 12.4V and power consumption for lamp around 9W. The DC voltage unloaded was 140V and loaded 110V. Because I was using a 230V lamp, to start the lamp, it was necessary to turn the frequency pot until the lamp lights and then adjust for optimum output at lowest current which was 0.74A in my case. A small hidden 12V secondary battery connected to the inverter supply rail somewhere and in parallel to the primary start battery would be all that's needed to maintain sufficient and a 'no-break' power supply to the lamp when the primary battery was removed. Just one connection alteration to the schematic would have been needed to connect one leg of TR2 coil 4 to the bridge rectifier. This would disconnect L1 thus rendering the main coil inoperative. The other leg already routes to the other side of the rectifier via main coil winding L4. The supply to the 150V supply to the neon indicator would still be operative as its powered from the other secondary transformer winding. Its possible that one of the two diodes shown connected to the inverter positive power input terminal block is a blocking diode connected with its anode connected to a secondary battery (via the yellow wire going into the ATX PSU), rather than the loop-back as claimed.

Regards
Hoppy

[verpies]

Yes, it is possible.

I'd like to emphasize that any possibility of a hidden battery can be excluded by a simple energy density calculation without even opening "the black box". 
All that is needed is a good wattmeter and a stop-watch.

AFAIK this calculation was not done for the Dally nor Kapanadze devices.

[d3x0r]

The measure  from collector to emitter is a voltage measurement and it is not very informative.
Please measure the current waveform to uncover what is going on inside the T2 transformer.

{that over query limit by user 12345 needs to go}


I'll work on a CSR; but can't I just measure between like the + on the cap and the connection past my connector?  It's less than 0.1 ohm but higher than 0...
Also, can't I just measure the voltage drop across the coil?  from + to the collector?


http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/2SC3263/2SC3263-ND/3661810


2SC3263?  It's not quite the same....

[verpies]

{that over query limit by user 12345 needs to go}

I second that. It looks like a DOS attack

I'll work on a CSR; but can't I just measure between like the + on the cap and the connection past my connector?  It's less than 0.1 ohm but higher than 0...

Maybe, if your scope is sensitive enough.
500mA flowing in 0.1Ω resistor will give you a 50mV signal and in a 0.01Ω resistor it will give you a 5mV signal.
10 inches of 18 AWG-Gauge copper wire (apx. 1mm diameter) or 1 inch of 28 AWG-Gauge copper wire (apx. 0.32mm diameter) both will have the resistance of 0.00532Ω.
500mA flowing in 0.005Ω resistance will give you a 2.5mV signal. 
Can your scope pick that up?
If "yes", it might be noisy and if your scope probe picks up some EMI from nearby wires then the  EMI might overwhelm the signal from the CSR.
But it is worth a try with a straight piece of thin wire.
It is important that this current sensing wire does not heat up too much, because hot wire changes resistance.

Also, can't I just measure the voltage drop across the coil?  from + to the collector?

Absolutely not! 
The coil makes its own voltage. This voltage is not representative of the current flowing in the coil/winding.
Instead, it is representative of the time derivative of current.