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[Khwartz]

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@ Geo, you were lighting those lumens in the first video ever presented to us by NickZ with 12 volts @ 2 amps, you measured this by ? I cannot even see a measurement in  the video ?

This is what I think it is very sad here and there on near any forum or group of free energy quest: everybody here, because of the very high level of responsibility and generosity for the whole world, goes on any experiment to loose one's time (see how many years and hundreds of thousand post on the different sites of the free energy quest!...), but without having wait the experimenter having shown a real indubitable measurement of O/I power ratio.

THIS WOULD BE ALWAYS THE PREREQUISITE BEFORE ANY TRY OF REPLICATION,

but looks what I say is too obvious and need for anybody care! and still so many spend time to replicate devices we still don't know if they have any TRUE value, the worth of the time granted for the replication, and the money too!!   I wish it could change soon to save time and energy to everybody and as a result, been more efficient in our quest, refusing to replicate any devise until the person has provided sufficient proof of overunity.

Cheers,
Khwartz.

[verpies]

Any way, I said and say again, that the most accurate and indubitable proof is with temperature and linear resistors, heating ones. Just need thermometers (and still two closed box)! If the temperature grows faster with the device than the heating linear resistor, then here too, you have proved your overunity.

Unless you're dealing with "cold electricity"
But seriously now - the calorimetric comparison Wattmeters are indeed accurate but they are not cheap.

But without need of any costly meters! ...

I have a HP RF Wattmeter using this calorimetric principle and it costs as much as a good scope!  It is very slooowww, too

For input power consumption, indeed your way can be used but it is hard to know the exact capacity of a battery. I.m.o., high capacitors are much more accurate to calculate the exact energy stored than batteries (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

Capacitors do not provide constant voltage to the DUT and many devices operate only within narrow limits of supply voltages.
Also, even big capacitors discharge too quickly to supply power to many devices, for more than a few seconds.
Finally, some types of capacitors suffer from the dielectric soak, which invalidates the  ½CV² formula - especially in big capacitors.

[Khwartz]

It is not necessary for OU devices - at least not any more necessary than a regular multimeter.

In the context of OU research, this converter is only a general tool to measure the Output / Input Power Ratio quickly and accurately and universally (without disturbing the circuit being measured much).

Most importantly this converter would prevent unexperienced experimenters from making bad power measurements and being led into a blind alley with great cost and waste of time.  Also, this tool would allow for catching of true but short power anomalies and with improvements, it would allow to differentiate between power drawn from vs. power fed back into the power supply.
Power is not an "effect."  That question doe not make sense as stated, thus I will rephrase it according to its anticipated meaning.
Q: "Why can't power be measured by a light intensity of an incandescent light bulb ?"
A: It can be, but:

1) A light bulb introduces huge impedance mismatches between the internal resistance of the power supply and the impedance of the Device Under Test (DUT), read this.  This is especially evident in Input Power measurement where the bulb does not even light up most of the time ...and if it does, it dissipates so much power that it significantly affects the power flow to the DUT.

2) Incandescent bulb's impedance changes with its temperature and the frequency of the current flowing through it.
    a) Filaments of most of light bulbs are coiled and possess significant self-inductance that limits the passage of HF currents through them.  This results in under-registering of HF currents.
    b) The power to light intensity function is highly nonlinear and at low power levels the bulb does not produce visible light at all.

3) One bulb cannot be used as a universal Power-to-Light Converter for many different voltages and currents.

4) The Light-to-Voltage converters (e.g. photovoltaic cells) are highly susceptible to the long-term heat created by the bulb as well as the ambient temperature.

5) The non-linear Power-to-Light transfer function of the bulb combined to the non-linear Light-to-Voltage transfer of the light sensor can create a non-monotonic Power-to-Voltage transfer function that can be the source of significant errors and ambiguities.
    a)  DC Calibration and interpolation is needed to linearize the Power-to-Voltage transfer function. This requires paper&pencil or a microcontroller for real-time linearization.  For best effects the temperature of the light sensor should be accounted for,

6) The light sensor is affected by the ambient light, necessitating a bulky dark enclosure, which aggravates the thermal influence of the bulb on the light sensor.

Grumage has constructed a "Wattbox" out of a light bulb enclosed in a steel can with a photovoltaic cell and he can tell you how well it really works.  I don't think he has ever used it to measure INPUT Power to any of his devices, because of the issues outlined in pt.1, but I have seen it used as a "measurable load" to measure OUTPUT Power of his devices.  Nonetheless, his "Wattbox" is many times better than eyeballing a light bulb or recording it with a video camera with an automatically variable aperture.
What "effect"?  This is just a general tool for measuring power.  It's just smaller, quicker and more accurate than a the "Wattbox" constructed out of a light bulb enclosed in a steel can with a light sensor.  With improvement, it can also separately measure  power drawn form power returned to the source.
Most importantly it is more universal than a light bulb, as it does not introduce impedance mismatches outlined in pt.1.
No. The output signal out of this converter is a low frequency voltage that represents the average power flowing through this converter.  The output signal does not represent high frequency current nor voltage flowing through the converter.
I can't understand this question because of missing key grammatical structures, e.g. verbs.
If you are asking, how to connect this device, I think that AC IN and AC OUT labels on the schematic, are self-explanatory.
This is a universal tool, not meant to be applied only to any particular device.  The phrase "primary DC circuit" most likely refers to some particular device and as such it is irrelevant to the discussion of merits of this converter.

OU is Output Energy divided by Input Energy > 1.
Aforementioned W-->V converters can accurately measure HF AC Output Power and Input Power with an ordinary voltmeter.  With an addition of long-term integration, they can also measure Output Energy and Input Energy, which is one of two ways of determining OU.
If he was measuring power, then YES.
If he was measuring current or voltage separately, then NO.

If, this said simple electronics, has truly the characteristics you provide here, I am with you, Verpies! And very thank you for bringing your idea here. But for those like me who don't like or can't work with electronics, the laboratory (but so cheap!) way of measurement of power output by temperature, remains for me the most indubitable way and cheapest/easy way to check overunity.

Cheers,
Kwhartz.

[Khwartz]

A simple mesurement : you need electric kettle and two bottles of water with known quantity and the same temperature. First boil that water with electric grid power and measure time required to boiling point, then let the kettle coold down and do the same with Ou device.

Hi Forest. Nice to see you are with me on this point! 

[verpies]

A simple mesurement : you need electric kettle and two bottles of water with known quantity and the same temperature. First boil that water with electric grid power and measure time required to boiling point, then let the kettle cool down and do the same with Ou device.

The kettle method is slow, suitable only for measuring LF and high OUTPUT powers and it suffers from the same problems as outlined in pt.1 - pt.3 of the incandescent bulb analysis. 
Also, it is not suitable for measuring INPUT power because of pt.2