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Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

Started by 27Bubba, September 18, 2012, 02:17:22 PM

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verpies

Quote from: Khwartz on December 10, 2013, 07:51:52 PM
Quote from: verpies on December 09, 2013, 05:34:58 AM
12) Differential calorimetric measurement o two identical resistors...
Nope! It is measuring REAL, or "TRUE" power: P [W] = R.I^2. It is the REACTIVE and the APPARENT ones we don't get by the calorimetric method you have well described (thanks).
APPARENT = REAL + REACTIVE
According to the above vector sum, it would be illogical for the Apparent Power not to have any calorimetric effects, while Real Power did.

Also, if hypothetically: only the Real power did the heating of resistors, whilethe Reactive Power and Apparent Power did not, then the following Wikipedia quote about Reactive Power would not make sense:
Quote from: Wikipedia link=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apparent_power#Real.2C_reactive.2C_and_apparent_power
Power engineers measure apparent power as the magnitude of the vector sum of real and reactive power....
Engineers care about apparent power, because even though the current associated with reactive power does no work at the load, it heats the wires, wasting energy.

If you are still sure that you are correct, you should go to that Wikipedia article an correct it.

P.S.
My W-->V converter, converts Real Power to Voltage., so e.g. connecting a capacitor to an AC voltage source through this converter, will cause it to indicate almost ZERO V, because the capacitor draws only Reactive Power and practically no Real Power over integer number of cycles.
Can you state they same about the rationometric calorimetric measurement of the same capacitor connected by a resistor to the same AC source?  ...a resistor that is being heated according to the I2R relation.

Hoppy

Quote from: NickZ on December 10, 2013, 09:02:10 PM
   Khwartz:
   Unfortunately only a handful of people in the world have taken the time or opportunity to replicate any of the devices that we've been discussing, throughout all these pages, including the power monitoring device that Verpies has been talking about.
Will you be the first??? And show us all it's actual working usefulness, which would convince the rest of us to try to make it ourself?
 

I don't see how anyone can successfully replicate, or even attempt to replicate a device if that device had not been measured and adequately detailed. Neither Geo's or Igor's devices have been detailed in build sufficiently for an accurate replication to be made. Neither of these guys have fully detailed their coil builds or produced a full set of electrical measurements that can be used as benchmarks for an accurate replication. If you do manage to light a bulb fairly brightly, how much power is it consuming compared to Geo's or Igor's lamps and how do you know that their bulbs have exactly the same electrical parameters as your bulbs. I'm sure most of us can light a bulb or two with a Mazzilli to varying degrees of brightness but without proper measurement and detailed build specifications its going to be a case of  - "my bulb looks brighter than yours" - with neither party knowing which bulb is consuming the least power v lumens and which device is the most electrically efficient. As for looping back the devices, with setups so inadequately detailed like this, to show and prove self-running is just 'pie in the sky'!

NickZ

   Yes, that is all true. However, that's not so much my concern.
   My concern is providing a useable light source for my house, one that works. Not to prove the point, or read the values on meters, or seeing if my device works better, than someone what someone else has, or not.
  As mentioned, I'm still looking for the reason that Geo's system can light bulbs many times brighter than what I've been able to do. And then loop it, hopefully without overheating the components.
  Geo has done a nice job of detailing the diagrams, and telling us about the coils, their winds and turn counts, and so it should be possible to replicate, and obtain similar results. Why no one has been able to so, is still a mistery. But, no one has actually done an exact replication, yet.
I do agree that there is something that we don't know about yet though.

  I'm a bit worried about Geo, not continuing on with us as he mentioned. I feel that something is possibly not right, and I hope that he is ok, and he's just having a good time with his "gf" on the island.
  In any case we need to do what we can on our own, as no one is going to do this all for us. Those guys both have shown us what is possible, so that we can improve upon their builds and ideas, as it's not a done deal yet.
 

Hoppy

Quote from: NickZ on December 11, 2013, 09:38:16 AM
   Yes, that is all true. However, that's not so much my concern.
   My concern is providing a useable light source for my house, one that works. Not to prove the point, or read the values on meters, or seeing if my device works better, than someone what someone else has, or not.
 


Nick,

If you just want lighting, you will better off setting-up a few solar panels with a charge controller and battery bank for energy storage. Even better efficiency can had with a 'tracker' to rotate the panels to follow the sun. That would give you a good project and a useful end product, which is more than you can expect from following some of the hopeless circuit schematics posted on this forum!

NickZ

  Hoppy:
  Yes, I'm quite aware of what solar panels, and battery banks can do.  However, the cost is prohibitive, as yet. Nor is there the same excitement in discovering that which has not been done yet, as with these circuits that we are dealing with.
  Lighting my house is only part of it, as I do love also experimenting on something extraordinary, as well.
  The idea is to combine the two things, that is, a solar panels to power these oscillator(s) which will provide for much higher output than what just a relatively inexpensive solar system can provide. So, that's the plan, Sam.