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Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

Started by 27Bubba, September 18, 2012, 02:17:22 PM

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verpies

Quote from: a.king21 on January 25, 2014, 03:57:20 AM
Verpies: Can you check the maths in this patent:
If you mean this:
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...if the three-electrode capacitor has two sections of equal capacitance C and a the d.c. voltage across the inner and outer electrodes is 2V, a change v in voltage of the central electrode will increment the total electrical energy of the capacitor from 2(CV2/2) to C(V+v)212 plus C(V-v)2/2, which is greater than 2(CV212) by the amount Cv2
Then this quote seems to have severe OCR errors.  I can guess that the author meant:
"from 2(CV2/2) to [ C(V+v)2/2 ] + [ C(V-v)2/2 ], which is greater than 2(CV2/2) by the amount Cv2"
...where the factor "2" in blue, appears because there are two capacitor sections in the device.

As such this math is correct, however note that mathematical correctness does not guarantee conceptual correctness.

d3x0r

Quote from: verpies on January 25, 2014, 07:08:05 AM
If you mean this:Then this quote seems to have severe OCR errors.  I can guess that the author meant:
"from 2(CV2/2) to C(V+v)2/2 plus C(V-v)2/2, which is greater than 2(CV2/2) by the amount Cv2"
...where the factor "2" in red appears because there are two capacitor sections in the device.


This is GB2390941; which is referenced as 'the prior device'


http://exvacuo.free.fr/Sciences/Brevets/GB2390941%20-%20H%20Aspden%20-%20Electricity%20generating%20apparatus.pdf

a.king21

Aspden:  I wondered if his patent made sense.
I've just had a long conversation with DL who knew him well.
He tells me that Aspden was a skilled Patent lawyer as well as a brilliant
electrical engineer. There's unfortunately no guarantee that the device was
ever built by Aspden.
Pity.

d3x0r

Regarding the building of this device mentioned in the last 2 patents.


2 cylindrical electrodes without a solid dielectric;
from playing with electrostatics, 2000 volts will jump a short gap between metal through air... and if the cylinders are not smooth, (mine are roughed because I took the paint coat off) the ridges will be extra (cathodic?) and short the gap ... well the inner rod can be prickly (positive potential) but then I have this lip on the other side of what I was going to have...
then comes the ridge at the end of the capacitor; without a bead of solid dielectric , it will short out the edges there....


I've seen this idea so many times in various iterations; the concetric capacitor plates I was going to use were the iron core and rod casing from leedskalnin client magnets... but that gap is wide... its something like 50-300pf... and the gap is like 2.5mm maybe more... which is only good for like 250V?


Again no specific dimensions... how far should the outside be gapped?  I do have some aluminum sheet rolls that can be concentric-ized..
in the second patent he mentions the inner shoould be elongated ( stick out of the ends of the inner)


should be able to have a 3 plate capacitor, charge the middle (and remove the charge source.... if it's not tooo leaky itself, it's like a vaccuum chamber, removing the feed line...)  and short the outer plates with an inductor, and see if stimulating it with an occasional short pulse would make it resonante/pulse.....