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Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

Started by 27Bubba, September 18, 2012, 02:17:22 PM

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gyulasun

Quote from: Jeg on May 31, 2014, 05:46:18 AM
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   What makes this huge amplitude difference between prim. and sec? 
In an isolation transformer when we tune in 50Hz it will pass easier the pwr from prim. to sec. but it will not exceed the 220V voltage input. The reason is that the no. of turns are almost equal in number. Isn't the same rule apply also here?

Hi Jeg,

If you drive the primary from a low inner impedance source (or from relatively low impedance wrt the resonant impedance), then the primary coil is "choked"  i.e. shunted by that low impedance.  However the secondary coil is loaded by your probe (which is relatively a high impedance load) and also loaded partly by the transformed prim impedance  but the magnetic coupling between prim and sec coils is loose (provided you also used split cores) so that a resonant rise can develop across the sec. I agree with Farmhand on his explanation above.

On you isolating transformer example the coupling between the primary and secondary is strong (they are both on a common core) and (supposing) after you tuned them to resonance the output voltage level cannot rise much due to the mains network very low inner impedance appearing across the primary and also transformed to the secondary, plus the loading impedance on the secondary when you do the correct power test.

Gyula

Jeg

Quote from: gyulasun on May 31, 2014, 12:29:38 PM

shunted by that low impedance. 

the magnetic coupling between prim and sec coils is loose
Gyula

Thanks Gyula
Impedance is a good reason for this. In fact, it seems to be the main reason, as coupling is not so loose as you think. I had the metal brackets in place, holding the two half's strongly together when i did the test, and without paper between the two half's.



NickZ

  I really haven't found any noticeable difference in the yoke or flyback cores when testing them with their clips in place, or with paper between the halves, or without any of this type of core insulation.
   Akula does use the clips in his yokes, nor have I heard him mention anything about placing paper, tape, mica, or anything between the ferrite core halves.
  Some of the flyback clips are non magnetic, other aren't. Same with the yoke clips.
Nor do I think that the chatter or rattling of these cores has anything to do with increasing the output, but can be a consequence of a not properly tuned coil wiring relations, improper tuning caps frequency, etz...  I can obtain just as high an output without any ringing noise, as with it. Of course, I'd much rather not have that noise in my house, as it drives my kids up the wall. There does seam to be a relation with the loudest of the ringing noise, or the separation of the distance between the core halves, and the higher output of the device.

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Farmhand

Quote from: NickZ on June 01, 2014, 09:36:52 AM
  I really haven't found any noticeable difference in the yoke or flyback cores when testing them with their clips in place, or with paper between the halves, or without any of this type of core insulation.
   Akula does use the clips in his yokes, nor have I heard him mention anything about placing paper, tape, mica, or anything between the ferrite core halves.
  Some of the flyback clips are non magnetic, other aren't. Same with the yoke clips.
Nor do I think that the chatter or rattling of these cores has anything to do with increasing the output, but can be a consequence of a not properly tuned coil wiring relations, improper tuning caps frequency, etz...  I can obtain just as high an output without any ringing noise, as with it. Of course, I'd much rather not have that noise in my house, as it drives my kids up the wall. There does seam to be a relation with the loudest of the ringing noise, or the separation of the distance between the core halves, and the higher output of the device.

And don't forget Nick, if you have a dog or cat they can hear much higher frequencies that we cannot hear, so when the frequency
increases and we can no longer hear the ringing, the animals still can, it could cause a change in behavior of the animal, could
even drive them nuts because they would not understand whats happening.  :) I can't put up with the ringing setups either.

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