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Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

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Hoppy

Quote from: T-1000 on October 21, 2014, 10:47:43 AM

Ok, here are example calculations. I might made some mistakes based on understanding and will adjust it in an process if needed:



The base pipe diameter is 50mm and the length is  20 cm
Calclutated wire lengths (2piR*length / wire diameter (skipped at the moment)) according to http://www.1728.org/freqwave.htm
31415.926535897932384626433832795 mm - layer 1+2
15707.963267948966192313216916398 mm - layer 3+4
7853.9816339744830961566084581988 mm - layer 5+6
=
1/4 wave 54977.871437821381673096259207392 mm -  5.453MHz - main grenade coil
full wave 219911.48575128552669238503682957 mm -  1.3632MHz


1/3 wave =  73303.828583761842230795012276522 mm - 4.0897MHz - tesla coil 1/4
Tesla full wave 293215.31433504736892318004910609 mm =  1.0224MHz


Inductor 1/2 wave = 109955.74287564276334619251841479 mm 2.7265MHz
Inductor 100th harmonics = 10995574.287564276334619251841479 mm  27.265kHz

P.S> Ruslan used wire of 2.5mm^2 (diameter 0.8mm) so you can practice and adjust this :)   Also we have 2 layers not 1, so you need multiply length by 2

Cheers!


Thanks T1000.


My 2.5mm^2 is around 3.6mm diameter. The Tesla coil wire is 0.8mm.


If we multiply by 2 we get 146.6m (T coil) and 109.94m (grenade coil), which seems far too long, as does 73.3m and 54.97m!

Void

Quote from: T-1000 on October 21, 2014, 11:45:40 AM
Nope, he just was talking only about tube diameter, width, wavelength and frequency.

Hi T-1000. Ok, thanks. Where are you getting the stuff about the 1/3 wavelength from?
Akula talked about that in one of his videos, but Ruslan said he is tuning his tesla coil to run around
2 MHz, which is the full wavelength frequency for a grenade coil wire length of 37.5m, taking 37.5m as a quarter wavelength. 
37.5 x 4 = 150m, which corresponds to a frequency of 2 MHz, ignoring the small difference the velocity factor
of wire makes. 
All the best...


Hoppy

Quote from: Void on October 21, 2014, 12:28:25 PM
Hi T-1000. Ok, thanks. Where are you getting the stuff about the 1/3 wavelength from?
Akula talked about that in one of his videos, but Ruslan said he is tuning his tesla coil to run around
2 MHz, which is the full wavelength frequency for a grenade coil wire length of 37.5m, taking 37.5m as a quarter wavelength. 
37.5 x 4 = 150m, which corresponds to a frequency of 2 MHz, ignoring the small difference the velocity factor
of wire makes. 
All the best...


OK, how long do you make the Tesla secondary coil?

T-1000

Quote from: Void on October 21, 2014, 12:28:25 PM
Hi T-1000. Ok, thanks. Where are you getting the stuff about the 1/3 wavelength from?
Akula talked about that in one of his videos, but Ruslan said he is tuning his tesla coil to run around
2 MHz, which is the full wavelength frequency for a grenade coil wire length of 37.5m, taking 37.5m as a quarter wavelength. 
37.5 x 4 = 150m, which corresponds to a frequency of 2 MHz, ignoring the small difference the velocity factor
of wire makes. 
All the best...
When Ruslan was explaining he stated this 1/3 wavelength so I am calculating according to his explanations.
Also we are typically speaking about 1/4th resonance but  the truth will reveal as soon as all frequencies match between themselves.
And the grenade coil is standing wave receiver which add unknowns to standard radio receiver calculations so will see about it.


Void

Quote from: Hoppy on October 21, 2014, 12:44:56 PM
OK, how long do you make the Tesla secondary coil?

I haven't tried it yet, but using a tesla coil calculator app (JavaTC), a wire length of
37.5m should work out to about approx. 120 turns on a 50mm OD coil form, and should have
a resonance at around 2.827 MHz. That should be a winding length of about 20cm.
This is calculated using 18AWG magnet wire (0.82mm^2). This allows for a little spacing
between each turn to take into account the magnet wire varnish insulation. This is also assuming
I didn't make an error when using JavaTC. :)

Since tesla coils (as any coil) can have more than one resonance point, I am not sure if a kacher
driver would operate at that resonance point or another resonance point. I hope to find time to try
this, this coming weekend.

You can probably get it to resonate at a bit higher frequency if you use some spacing between
each winding. Once you add the top loading 'antenna' coil, this resonant frequency will likely
drop, so you may well need to start removing some windings from the secondary from there to tune.
All the best...