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Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

Started by 27Bubba, September 18, 2012, 02:17:22 PM

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nelsonrochaa

Quote from: Hoppy on September 11, 2015, 12:36:11 PM
Hmm, 600W or was it 150W??
What a pathetic statement . ho cares if 150W or 600W light bulbs ?
you are able to do the same with 1 watt ?


TinselKoala

Quote from: Hoppy on September 11, 2015, 12:00:59 PM
Yes, it is a nonsense to carry out experiments claiming OU without supporting power and energy measurements.

That is exactly right. A claimant CANNOT simply use the nameplate rating of a bulb or other load to claim a power output value. The claimant MUST use proper measurements of bulb brightness, voltage, current and waveform in order to have a valid power output value. We often have seen people who should know better --- and perhaps they do know better --- showing some bulbs lit up feebly while shouting "Look! 600 Watts" ! simply because that's what it says on the bulb labels. This is so wrong it isn't even funny any more... it's downright dishonest.

Next, the BNC connector Shields of most FGs are connected to the chassis and back to the Mains supply ground pin. It is trivial , when using two FGs that are Mains powered, to arrange to have the full Mains voltage appear between the BNC shields of the two FGs, simply by switching two wires of the Mains supply to one of the FGs. It can even be done inside the wall socket that supplies one of the FGs. This is an easy way to sneak full Mains power into any system that uses 2 FGs. It creates a shock hazard and a hazard to the devices themselves but is easily done and if done deliberately and with care, not dangerous.

Furthermore, any system that truly puts out more electrical power than it takes to run it, should be able to be "daisy chained" with other identical devices. That is, if you have some system that is putting out 600 Watts of power and it only takes one or ten or 14 watts to run it, you should be able to connect another one or several identical devices as the "load" of the first device, and run them off of the output of the first device, with power left over to run a load. Several stages... MANY stages of identical devices should be daisy chained, all running only on the input power to the very first device. Yet you will _never_ see any demonstrations like this from OU claimants such as those who claim 600 Watts output from 14 watts input. Why not? I know why... and so do you.

Finally (for now) it is easy and common to underestimate the power that can be sent through very thin, nearly invisible wires, especially HV and high frequency. Most of the YT video demonstrations of excess power output could be easily faked by using thin wires that don't show up under the poor resolution and bad camera work of these video demonstrations.

Some people are so hopeful and so trusting that they will refuse even to consider how a device could be made to work using trickery. They will come up with all kinds of reasons for why you can't daisy-chain two or three identical devices so that they all run on the input to the first one only. These feeble excuses do not hold water.

For your amusement: Cheese Power.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Frp03muquAo

TinselKoala

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on September 11, 2015, 12:46:52 PM
What a pathetic statement . ho cares if 150W or 600W light bulbs ?
you are able to do the same with 1 watt ?

Let's see -you- do the same with one Watt. You cannot... and neither can the original claimant. If you could, it would be easy, even trivial, to run ten or a hundred identical devices from the output of the first one in the chain, with excess power left over to run some other practical load. You will _never_ see this demonstrated though. Why not? I know why, Nelson, and so do you.

nelsonrochaa

Quote from: TinselKoala on September 11, 2015, 03:33:48 PM
Let's see -you- do the same with one Watt. You cannot... and neither can the original claimant. If you could, it would be easy, even trivial, to run ten or a hundred identical devices from the output of the first one in the chain, with excess power left over to run some other practical load. You will _never_ see this demonstrated though. Why not? I know why, Nelson, and so do you.

Now the subject is about if i able to do the same with one Watt ?
Is a question of good sense . no one will light a incandescent bulb of 600W with 1W of input by a conventional way . This is what we are talking about .
I will not argue with you what could be done to certify all the points you refer, but it seems to me doors to escape the question that is being discussed.;)
I'm not worried about your point of view or opinion as it is normal for people to differ as to their tastes or opinions. I respect your opinion.




forest

The problem with 1W input is that it takes usually more to just drive electronic parts, to switch mosfets and so on....but look what Tariel Kapanadze did  with 100W input...