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Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

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Tomtech29

Quote from: itsu on October 06, 2015, 04:09:28 PM
Hi Jeg,

you are right, closing the inductor changes the response, the 2e peak at 1.2Mhz disappeared, see the below screenshot.
But this grenade coil is very sensitive to stray capacitance as the position i put the 2 winding FG loop shows already different resonance peaks.

Regards Itsu
hi
roll out the same I have a question for you, how to check this if you use load coil condenser and bulb, because if we have the situation that the capacitor changes the resonant peak of a multi-layer coil is how do I know that you have the correct items that reference point for the generation of the initial two turns?
in which the location of the measurement will be closest to the correct configuration?

-the first step is to establish a high-frequency coil on the open multi turnover a working line of earth ground ?
- a second consecutive step is to select any frequency low-frequency peaks ?

whether such a measurement also qualifies I'm thinking of using rectifier bridge and light bulbs, or simply join only 28 windings in parallel and connect the probe of the oscilloscope?

itsu


Tomtech29,

sorry, i cannot follow you, are these all questions?

I agree that the resonance point of the grenade (any coil) will shift when adding components (caps, rectifiers etc.) to it.
But we need some basic idea where this coil will resonate.

From T1000 i also understand that we need to treat this grenade coil as a transmissionline and setup standing waves on it, but i fail to see
how a coil (1 wire, 2 ends) can be compared with a transmissionline (2 wires, 4 ends).
Some reference is made to a Teslacoil secondary which also is a coil (1 wire, 2 ends) on which a standing wave (¼ wave) is setup upon.


Regards itsu

Jeg

Quote from: itsu on October 07, 2015, 05:44:57 AM
Jeg,

these are no FFT measurements (at least i do not use my scopes FFT function).
I use my Rigol FG (DG4102) to setup a frequency sweep (here 100KHz -> 10MHz) and external sync the scope to this signal.
I don't know if your Rigol scope has an internal sweeping function, i thought it does have a FG build in.

Regards Itsu
Thank you itsu. I will look at this.


starcruiser

Quote from: itsu on October 07, 2015, 08:00:10 AM
Tomtech29,

sorry, i cannot follow you, are these all questions?

I agree that the resonance point of the grenade (any coil) will shift when adding components (caps, rectifiers etc.) to it.
But we need some basic idea where this coil will resonate.

From T1000 i also understand that we need to treat this grenade coil as a transmissionline and setup standing waves on it, but i fail to see
how a coil (1 wire, 2 ends) can be compared with a transmissionline (2 wires, 4 ends).
Some reference is made to a Teslacoil secondary which also is a coil (1 wire, 2 ends) on which a standing wave (¼ wave) is setup upon.


Regards itsu

What is the ground plane in the configuration? what is capacitive component? a transmission line has a capacitive component which impacts its working frequency/impedance. if the transmission line is open ended then the 2nd wire is irrelevant for the most part since it is mostly capacitive. This is antenna theory, the ground wire matches the grenade coils length thus this is its ground plane, its matched ground element.

The Kacher radiator coil is part of this, as well as the 25 turn x 2 coil, all of these will impact the operation and its resonant point.

I would use a capacitance and inductance meter to determine actual values and see what the readings are in relation to the primary coil against the other coils in the arrangement, check this against the desired operating frequency (mathematically), then see how this lines up with the actual results when all components are in place (coils). Then solve for the capacitive component to align the coils to the desired operating frequency.

remember the kacher is the source (kicker/transmitter), the 168 turn coil is the resonant tank (mixer?)and then you tap the tank for power, the capacitors are required to tune the tank circuits, store energy and offset the phase shift of current and voltage due to inductors.

I find the tesla coil (Kacher) is 1/4 wave of the 168 turn coil, at least in my setup.
Regards,

Carl