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Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

Started by 27Bubba, September 18, 2012, 02:17:22 PM

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T-1000

Quote from: starcruiser on October 21, 2015, 08:43:48 AM
The inductance and resistance forms a filter as mentioned, it just looks to me that the combination of the various coils and capacitors is forming a bandpass filter (or a notch filter) and all filters have a resonant point to them as well, the resistance in the circuit is one of the limiting factors of the "Q" of the filter.

In the case of yoke with series resonance the load changes mutual inductance of the yoke due core saturation effects and effectively the resonant frequency shifts up with more load added to the output. The push-pull circuit should cope and produce new frequency to keep up with series resonance conditions and this is where PLL or other feed-back circuit helps.

Hoppy

Quote from: starcruiser on October 21, 2015, 08:43:48 AM
I agree that there is more involved, just that this is one of the factors to be considered. The inductance and resistance forms a filter as mentioned, it just looks to me that the combination of the various coils and capacitors is forming a bandpass filter (or a notch filter) and all filters have a resonant point to them as well, the resistance in the circuit is one of the limiting factors of the "Q" of the filter.

I do think the coils should be measured for their inductance and the math done to see what the actual frequency response is for the sudo filters being created here. I feel this is just another item to be looked at and considered in the design and performance of the device. We all do want to understand how this works and how to effectively tune it right?

I'm not sure that we do know with any real confidence, how this device is supposed to work, which makes it all the more difficult to know exactly how the various components should interact with each other. Given that Ruslan's first claimed self-runner did not incorporate this more complex PLL and pulsed Kacher circuitry, so in some respects, Nick's efforts to keep things simple may be a more valid approach to discover by chance adjustment of the many variables, if there is any hint that loop back running is possible.

I'm not particularly struck on the standing wave theory of operation, given that Kapanadze's claimed self-running box and aquarium devices are crudely constructed and show no sign of circuit complexity or the need for fine tuning. It also intrigues me why the grenade coil concept was adopted by Kapanadze, Akula and Ruslan amongst others. Did Akula, Ruslan and others just copy and develop the Kapanadze grenade because they thought the shape was important, or does the design go further back and all these people have copied it from an earlier source?

Jeg

Quote from: T-1000 on October 21, 2015, 08:59:32 AM
In the case of yoke with series resonance the load changes mutual inductance of the yoke due core saturation effects and effectively the resonant frequency shifts up with more load added to the output. The push-pull circuit should cope and produce new frequency to keep up with series resonance conditions and this is where PLL or other feed-back circuit helps.

Thanks T1000. I hadn't realized that! At Allegan's circuit, the gate of kacher's mosfet, takes driving pulses through a switch. What this switch does please?

Itsu, is your circuit the Allega's one?
Yes you are probably right. First connect everything up and then check again. Other alternative as T1000 said, is to sense the high magnetic moment inside the yoke core, than to sense current inside inductor's line. 

Hoppy

Quote from: T-1000 on October 21, 2015, 08:59:32 AM
In the case of yoke with series resonance the load changes mutual inductance of the yoke due core saturation effects and effectively the resonant frequency shifts up with more load added to the output. The push-pull circuit should cope and produce new frequency to keep up with series resonance conditions and this is where PLL or other feed-back circuit helps.

If this is the case, how is it that Ruslan does not suffer from the same saturation effects, (if indeed it is a real problem that would affect the ability to self-run) given that he has the same open cored yoke design? The only thing I can see that could be significantly different is the core material. If saturation is the problem, then surely a closed core-coil design would be preferable, over the open and loosely coupled winding design of the yoke.

Tomtech29

most of these schemes shows such entry but to get rid of the high voltage is close to ground if you want someone other schemes is different?