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Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

Started by 27Bubba, September 18, 2012, 02:17:22 PM

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T-1000

Quote from: GeoFusion on February 22, 2016, 10:48:21 AM
T-1000,
I was recently on RealStrannik forum and wanted to ask you something they are talking about and heard Ruslan talking about it too.

What are OEDs??? EODs emissions.
ОЕДС = BEMF
The proper translation - the BEMF spikes.

verpies

Quote from: NickZ on February 22, 2016, 09:31:30 AM
That all sounds very complicated. 
It is but it is also the most stable and predictable circuit for this role.

Dog-One

Quote from: T-1000 on February 22, 2016, 08:58:54 AM
In Tariels case and Ruslan case, there was quite interesting tesmpeak conference on last Friday:
https://yadi.sk/d/f0qWJuBepCaqQ - Ruslan's new tuning approach
Ruslan generally told he is looking for natural resonance with maximum current sudden rise in grenade coil first with small resistance attached on low frequency range then builds push-pull for that frequency. Only then he adjusts Tesla coil frequency to be multiplier of close harmonics to the natural resonant frequency of grenade coil. Not way around, all what Tesla coil is needed for - just spikes, so no katchers.
In the end of conference he mentioned about overcomplicated setup of akula with 2 PLLs and how much trouble that was. So i came up with idea:

Check my understanding here T-1000...

We should be able to resonant only the grenade coil with ground connected and detect a slight current flow through the ground cable correct?

That I can do.


Quote from: T-1000 on February 22, 2016, 08:58:54 AM
For example, the PLL on grenade locks on 15kHz, so the Tesla coil driver will need to be adjusted: 600kHz or 1,5MHz, or 3MHz but also there will be resonant harmonics between to choose for fine tuning which is close to natural frequenc of grenade coil. To do that we multiply frequency of PLL frequency  by 10 from 10 to 100 for crude adjustment then multiply by 1 from 1 to 10 for fine adjustment. The resonant harmonics never go out of division and multiplication ranges so we can use this in our advantage. Also the TT is not ment to be like katcher. We do not need much of self-resonance in TT (voltage). But we need self-resonance in grenade coil which will have maximum current and phase + frequency locks. So when 2 signals mix they add to each other. For multiplying it is like variable frequency but always on locked resonant harmonics so you pick up next harmonic instead of frequency not in harmonics. It is like tuning of piano octaves :) The wrong set of 2 frequencies cause bad sound there when playing music. There you have octaves for crude frequency shift and notes in each octave for fine frequency shift. It is same with resonant harmonics which we need here. Which means in Tesla driver we need frequency synthetizer for multipling PLL frequency -  http://m.teachastronomy.com/astropedia/article/Resonance-and-Harmonics
So lets say, our octave contains 10 notes: f,2f,3f,4f,5f,6f,7f,8f,9f,10f. We need 10 octaves. So the crude shift - 10f,20f,30f,40f,50f,60f,70f,80f,90f,100f. Then fine shift in each for selecting note. As that is in nature, it should work also in what we are trying to tune :) As an  example, 64f from 15kHz = 960kHz.

What you are saying was obvious to me quite a long time ago.  I'm surprised it took this long to be reiterated.

Start with high frequency for impulse, then divide that exact frequency down by octaves for low frequency drive of induction heater coil via push-pull.  Using a PLL to do this is still doable, but unnecessary.  It can be done with simple dividers the same way the old Stan Meyer circuit was built.  If you need to multiply for partial octaves, then that's a different story and here you will need a PLL.

(For those that don't fully understand PLLs...)

What you do is divide the output frequency of the PLL VCO and then compare it to the base frequency.  In effect this forces the VCO divided by some factor to match the base frequency and is rock stable if done properly.  The PLL will simply lock on to whatever signal you give it to compare with, that signal can be divided however you like before it goes into the comparator, it doesn't need to be one-to-one.  What you get is the VCO running at some factor higher frequency than the reference--multiplication.

For example, my little Cypress PSoC 5LP controller has a crystal controlled frequency of 10MHz.  Using the chip's built-in PLL, I can boost the running frequency of the processor up to 70MHz even though I have no source clock running that fast.  I just tell it to take its internal VCO frequency, divide that by 7 and match it to 10MHz.  The PLL then adjusts the VCO running frequency until it gets a match; now I have a 70MHz clock source.


Quote from: T-1000 on February 22, 2016, 10:20:25 AM
I also got involved in replication of device in UK so will keep you posted if will manage to find simple way for getting at least unity.

Also good that you are working hands-on to develop your own prototype.  I suspect you will discover the many issues all of us have come across during development.  It's not as easy at as it looks.   ;)


T-1000

Quote from: Dog-One on February 22, 2016, 03:31:09 PM
Check my understanding here T-1000...

We should be able to resonant only the grenade coil with ground connected and detect a slight current flow through the ground cable correct?

That I can do.


What you are saying was obvious to me quite a long time ago.  I'm surprised it took this long to be reiterated.

Start with high frequency for impulse, then divide that exact frequency down by octaves for low frequency drive of induction heater coil via push-pull.  Using a PLL to do this is still doable, but unnecessary.  It can be done with simple dividers the same way the old Stan Meyer circuit was built.  If you need to multiply for partial octaves, then that's a different story and here you will need a PLL.

Also good that you are working hands-on to develop your own prototype.  I suspect you will discover the many issues all of us have come across during development.  It's not as easy at as it looks.   ;)

Hi Matt,

The current sense would be on grenade coil wire going to the ground.
Also if you have possible circuit solution for the frequency multiplier as I described, the circuit diagram would be nice to see. Me and other three radio engineers did spent evening trying quickly to design it in simulation but seems it is tricky to do and will take time. We need circuit doing Fn = 1..10 * F0 * 10 + 1..10 * F0 multiplying function. Where F0 is the input frequency from PLL and the output frequency range is from 500kHz to 5MHz.

Cheers!

magpwr

hi everyone,

This is the latest improvement related to my Tesla Transponder 2.0 setup related to Akula Kapanadze.

Last night i noted the voltage reading which was hovering around 1.6kVpp.

After which i merely connected the 12volt battery negative terminal to Earth via the existing copper wire beneath the Tesla Transponder coil.

This time the peak voltage increased  to around 2.3kVpp and there was NO changes detected on the digital power meter reading which is around 15watt for Battery voltage 12.6volts Current 1.19Amps.
The only thing i noticed the voltage on the Russian 20uf 400volts PIO capacitor when up from 189...190volts to 200volts since i was still using 10kv diode to intentionally lower DC voltage.

I have attached screenshot to show there is increase in current reading to Earth which is fluctuating somewhere 5.79Amps to 11Amps via my clamp meter.The Led appeared much brighter from 1 turn toroid.

The reason why i connected negative of 12volts battery to Earth because i recall in one of Akula demo i think it was Germany where was a unknown Tesla device of Akula lighting two CFL.
I got the idea from there after doing a partial visual trace for the negative and etc.

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Next plan as mentioned is to try running my current setup via BEMF.

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At the moment i do have ideas in my head on how to design a optional Earth current detector on one blue toroid which can output to 3 Leds Red,Amber,Green using 3 separate 1 turn coil on 1 toroid.

1 turn  goes to 1 Green led
1 turn goes to 2 Amber Leds in series
1 turn goes to 3 Red Leds in series

Take note there is 3 individual coil each 1 turn. :o

This is good for those whom got no clamp meter and can easily reveal the level of spike at 1 turn at a glance."This is just theory and i can't guarantee the accuracy since i have not tested." :D

Low current flow- only 1 Green Led lit

Medium current flow
- 1 Green Led and 2 Amber Led lit

High current flow -3 Red Led,2 Amber Leds and 1 Green Led would be all lit at the same time.

Like said this is optional tool although in my mind i am thinking of using tiny smd Led. :)

1 turn on blue toroid gives me around 2.9uH

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That's all for now.