Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

[AlienGrey]

  As I had mentioned, I'm looking for the sync, and that is why I'm doing it the way that I'm doing it. To see what happens, next.
  So far, so good. 
  Hopefully I'll be able to obtain some of the still needed components in the next few days. Then I can continue on using higher voltages, without overheating the rectifiers, or anything else.

  Tomtech:  So, we can also try the parallel cap placement on the 3 turns coils and test it out for ourselves. If it helps, use it.
What value are those caps supposed to be? Any idea? ((((yes it's in the Alexee diagram but !)))
  I don't remember seeing that capacitor on Ruslan's device schematic, like the version (TopRuslan7) I'm working towards. (((( Oh really literally ? do you believe everything your told or in this case not told  ? )))

NickZ  I didn't say you know nothing,  it's a miss quote! I said what do you know about it (the device so far i meant)!
Now If you're going to play about with the caps (C) do you have an inductance meter ? as you need to be able to work out the resonant values and i think the winding lengths have to be related to the wavelengths in this project from what I have read.



Regards AG

[NickZ]

  Oh, sorry. It was a misquote... I see...   I should have quoted what was mentioned below then. My mistake.

  "A fat lot you know! you don't need a full bridge or half bridge to generate a standing wave all you need is a transmitter driver stage mismatch!"
                   end quote from AG.

   I don't know what the standing wave mismatch is suppose to look like on the Kacher/Grenad set up. 
   I don't think that you need an inductance meter. Nor do I see Ruslan or Akula needing to use one.
But, I think that I have enough mismatches, already.  However, I do know just what I'm trying to do. And, there's more than one way to shin a cat.

[apecore]

as you need to be able to work out the resonant values and i think the winding lengths have to be related to the wavelengths in this project from what I have read.

Regards AG

I think AG is right,.... resonance frequenty related to the standing wave winding lengths.

If we use the mentioned 37.5 m coil length etc........  how is it possible that everybody has a different resonance frequenty?

To generate the desired standing wave you have to tune your caps to the winding (wavelength) frequenty.

So when using kacher secundair coil of 19 meter,... inductor 19 m and output coil ....they all need to be tuned at the same frequenty.
Driving the yoke on 1/50 or 1/40 part of this frequenty is inherent to the resonance tuning

In order to make the secundair kacher coil out of 19 meter it means that it has to run primairy on a higher voltage ...  to get the HV.

Or am i going crazy

[NickZ]

I think AG is right,.... resonance frequenty related to the standing wave winding lengths.

If we use the mentioned 37.5 m coil length etc........  how is it possible that everybody has a different resonance frequenty?

To generate the desired standing wave you have to tune your caps to the winding (wavelength) frequenty.

So when using kacher secundair coil of 19 meter,... inductor 19 m and output coil ....they all need to be tuned at the same frequenty.
Driving the yoke on 1/50 or 1/40 part of this frequenty is inherent to the resonance tuning

In order to make the secundair kacher coil out of 19 meter it means that it has to run primairy on a higher voltage ...  to get the HV.

Or am i going crazy

   
    apecore: That I don't know, but... could be...
    You mentioned:
   "If we use the mentioned 37.5 m coil length etc........  how is it possible that everybody has a different resonance frequenty?"
 
    Because of the different winding methods, node points, different types of wire and insulation thickness, different former tubes, tuning caps, etz...

    "To generate the desired standing wave you have to tune your caps to the winding (wavelength) frequenty."

     There is no tuning needed on the grenade output coil. It is what it is. But, the wire type, former tube, number of winds, all have to do with it's final running frequency. As well as reversing the winds right at the proper nodes, to produce it's inductance cancelling effect. Or at least a partial inductance cancelling effect.
   
     First: The grenade inductor coil is tuned to obtain the best gain and amplitude at the output of the grenade coil, by tuning using your TL 484 controllers pots, adding caps to the inductor, etz.
   The Kacher is then tuned to the inductor/grenade running frequency. Which is the SAME frequency on both the inductor and grenade output coils. The Kacher's impulse frequency then must be caused to sync with the inductor's frequency. Where ever that may be, to produce the superpositioning that's required to produce OU. Then that OU output is rectified, and filtered by 24v, 10A Ps, and sent back to the input.
  At least, that's how I see it.
  Ask three people, and get three different answers...


   

   

[apecore]

Nick,
Thanks....perhaps you explained it several times...but it is in this kind of complex processes nescessary we do all the same things.
Then results will be same during tests and changes in the setup can be explained.

So if someone (out of the three) .. have another approach i will be delighted to hear it.

I am new here but ...in my opinion one off the discrepanties are that there are too much different setups wich also partly are not complete or correct drawed/ designed.

I hope and i mean it for real is that we go and start discuss real fact about configurations....and compare it to each other.
Else it will last again a long time before predicted result will come out.

So again thanks for the explanation and i hope that others will comply or adjust your statement.