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Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

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verpies

Quote from: GeoFusion on October 31, 2016, 12:30:26 PM
I have placed the mediator yoke about like 1 meter or more away to see if it does any difference .. but
still the same results. that field is because of Tesla coil influence. nothing else.
I was asking because in 2005 two scientists, Konrad and Brudny, have documented an effect that electric field pulses had on some ferrimagnetic materials, causing a variation in their magnetic permeability. 
This was described in an article titled "An Improved Method for Virtual Air Gap Length Computation" in IEEE Transactions on Magnetics, Vol. 41, No. 10 (10/2005)

Tesla coils, Kachers and other HV pulsers produce such variations in electric field.

verpies

Quote from: Hoppy on October 31, 2016, 01:19:40 PM
The disconnection of the earth wire on both a mains and battery driven system is considerably changing the impedance of the tuned circuit, resulting in an impedance mismatch to the load.
Not only that, but the removal of a long wire is also a removal of a large inductance from the circuit, that this wire represents, as well as altering the delay of any reflections, that might be happening in the wire acting as a transmission line.

NickZ

    Geo:
    I find it curious that what the spectrum analyzer is picking up is so different from what you mentioned the scope you used is reading.  Can you show a scope shot, or make a video using the scope, please. 
   I can also show what my scope is reading on my device, as well, and if I can make my yoke sing, I can also compare it with the sound spectrum analyzer. However, at the moment my yoke won't make a sound, most of the time.  I can also make the yoke vibrate strongly, at times as well, especially when magnetite magnets are added to the yoke, which normally does help to increase the output.
   
   The readings that I get on the spectrum analyzer are the ringings from your push-pull, yoke, mediator, etz...  Not from the HV, as that will not make an audible sound.  However, if you are running the push-pull at 25 to 27Khz, you should not be able to hear the tone that I am hearing. That is, your tone sounds lower than 25Khz.  So, I'm curious and hoping that we can discover why there are those differences in frequency readings.
 
   Can you tell us where you think that Adrian has his Kacher's "interuptor"?  As I only see a simple Kacher circuit, like yours or mine.

   It would also be interesting to see how your device reacts if using a short ground line going to a 12v car battery negative rail, instead of the longer ground line. Even though you aren't using the recommended 37.5 meter ground line.
   Ruslan also started with shorter ground lines, then changed to the more expensive 37.5 or 40 meter welding cable for his later builds.

   

GeoFusion

Quote from: verpies on October 31, 2016, 01:16:20 PM
Can you feel these vibrations with your hand or just ears?

I was asking because in 2005 two scientists, Konrad and Brudny, have documented an effect that electric field pulses had on some ferrimagnetic materials, causing a variation in their magnetic permeability. 
This was described in an article titled "An Improved Method for Virtual Air Gap Length Computation" in IEEE Transactions on Magnetics, Vol. 41, No. 10 (10/2005)

Tesla coils and other HV pulsers produce such variations in electric field.

yes, You can feel these just like *shockwaves, even if you place a magnet near the mediator or device. not to close.
corresponding to every cracking or tick sound you can hear with your ears, it will create virbrations within.
Interesting Document there verpies, Yes I am very aware in such cases, but never heard of this one in 2005 :)
Virtual Air Gap Length Computation, nice

Electric fields bring sometimes surprises which still amazes me, When two collide they can produce
interesting effects especially when you have 2 or more T. coils within the same SG in a certain arrangement.

Quote from: Hoppy on October 31, 2016, 01:19:40 PM
Geo,

Thanks for your comments which I appreciate.

Its clear that the tuning of the system is highly sensitive to hand capacitance and component placement. The disconnection of the earth wire on both a mains and battery driven system is considerably changing the impedance of the tuned circuit, resulting in an impedance mismatch to the load. The connection of the earth wire is not sucking-in energy from the ground, just improving the impedance match from the grenade to the lamp. I'm satisfied that you have replicated the effects seen on other videos and hope that you progress to a self-runner.

Hoppy,
no problem.
Someone has to do these to make sure of things to be ligit or not.
Now it's to finish this of and make it produce at it's best and self run.
"The last key has been found but now it's to implement and experimented with.
there one video of guska which in fact helped to know what was missing :).
and with help of Arunas getting extra info now from Akula.
I still don't have it on my board. but seems the mediator is doing partially it's job also.

Cheerz~



GeoFusion

Quote from: NickZ on October 31, 2016, 01:45:42 PM
    Geo:
    I find it curious that what the spectrum analyzer is picking up is so different from what you mentioned the scope you used is reading.  Can you show a scope shot, or make a video using the scope, please. 
   I can also show what my scope is reading on my device, as well, and if I can make my yoke sing, I can also compare it with the sound spectrum analyzer. However, at the moment my yoke won't make a sound, most of the time.  I can also make the yoke vibrate strongly, at times as well, especially when magnetite magnets are added to the yoke, which normally does help to increase the output.
   
   The readings that I get on the spectrum analyzer are the ringings from your push-pull, yoke, mediator, etz...  Not from the HV, as that will not make an audible sound.  However, if you are running the push-pull at 25 to 27Khz, you should not be able to hear the tone that I am hearing. That is, your tone sounds lower than 25Khz.  So, I'm curious and hoping that we can discover why there are those differences in frequency readings.
 
   Can you tell us where you think that Adrian has his Kacher's "interuptor"?  As I only see a simple Kacher circuit, like yours or mine.

   It would also be interesting to see how your device reacts if using a short ground line going to a 12v car battery negative rail, instead of the longer ground line. Even though you aren't using the recommended 37.5 meter ground line.
   Ruslan also started with shorter ground lines, then changed to the more expensive 37.5 or 40 meter welding cable for his later builds.

   

Hi Nick,
Ok, Well then I will post a pick to show the freq of pushpull snipped from the print screen pic for view.
Yes, the magnetites do increase or decrease depends in what position they are in, twisting them and so.
Well if those ranges are not to be heard, then we wouldn't have heard all that on recording :)
The pic will show you the freq which I measured befor.
There is indeed alot of chaoticness going on between frequencies, but 23-24khz is fed to mosfets pushpull.
Same for the very first round core that was 25.6 khz. and does the squealing on yoke.

Edit*
I need to convince you to start using TL494 board for further experimentation.

Adrian's interrupter is on the board. The Kacher is simple, but has a add on...

Yes ,Also did that with the minus of the battery, it works but not as good as a good earth.
virtual earth will work. but need more experimenting time on that. If good results it can without a earth wire.
but never really tried to hard on that part.
Yeah, not using recommended lenghts for the ground wire,
but did try many lenghts and this one worked for the best up till now
see what  gives the best results,

Wire lenght as for grenade as example 37.5M or 40M wire lenght is because
they know already where to tune the kacher's freq as standert.  Where to tune it properly where the Max peak is to harvest.
Than the wire lenght is decided for the grenade to be coiled to resonate on and harvest everything it can. The Receiver.
They have givin wire lenghts because that is in the ranges that they are working in,
there is even like sergey using 38M grenade for example.
it would be than that it will be the task to know on what to drive the tesla coil on ( voltage & freq) to resonate with the grenade.

cheerz~