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Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

Started by 27Bubba, September 18, 2012, 02:17:22 PM

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AlienGrey

Quote from: NickZ on September 11, 2017, 10:09:07 AM
  David:
  The fishing line idea has been tried on the Kacher's secondary coil. But it does not need to be 2MHz, as 1Mhz to 1.7 or 1.8MHz is normally high enough. Mine is running at 1.1MHz.

  Itsu: I could not obtain the needed 43 or 47 ohm 2 or 3 watt carbon resistors for the snubbers. So, I'll try to order any resistors that are 47 ohm, and 1k ohm, and see how they do.

   The second pic is from Stalker, and is what his best fet signals look like. His peaks go from 238v to 262 volts.

Notice the difference in Stalkers scope shot his ringing is in the dead zone !

I couldn't get my Katcher to run under load at much above 1.3 Mhz never lone 1.80 Mhz until I bifilar wound the main 19m coil 1mm copper and 0.6 fishing line ;)

Void

If some of you remember, back in 2014 Ruslan did a demonstration video where he
was charging I think maybe between 1 to 2 uF total capacitance to around 1000V using only
a kacher circuit driving his tesla coil and the output of the grenade to charge the capacitor.
According to Ruslan, using some sort of special pulsing circuit at the output and a specially
wound output transformer, Ruslan was able to power over 200W of light bulbs, plus power the
kacher circuit in self looped run mode. So, if that video was legit, then that means that you
should be able to get over unity just using the kacher with no PWM. However, as T-1000
mentioned in a previous post, we would need to figure out what he was doing in that
specially wound output transformer he said he was using. Could it be that unless you
know the trick of how to take the output power off of these type of setups that you
will never see OU? If that is the case, then it means we are missing something
important in regards to how to take the output power off the grenade winding.

For comparison, I used a flyback driver to charge a 0.91 uF PIO capacitor to 2.96kV
with a sparkgap across the capacitor adjusted to discharge the capacitor about once
a second.  It was interesting that with this configuration the capacitor charge rate was fairly
linear, which is not normal for a capacitor. The input current from the battery would slowly
increase from 0.6A to 0.8A as the capacitor was charging, so I think that explains the fairly
linear cap charge rate.

Taking 0.7A as the average input current, the input power to this setup was:
Input Power = 12.8V x 0.7A = 8.96W

You can see in the attached scope shot that the 0.91uF (measured) capacitor was charging
to about 2.96kV in about 1.1 seconds. I was using a 1000x high voltage scope probe on
the capacitor.
2.96kV on a 0.91uF cap is 3.987J
A charge time of 1.1 seconds gives an ouput power of:
Output Power: 3.987J / 1.1s = 3.62W

That's an efficiency of only about 40%, although I suspect that charging around 1uF
using a kacher and grenade winding like Ruslan did may not give very much better
performance, as I think the kacher circuit using a 12V battery draws more input
power than the flyback circuit I was using. If anyone has a kacher setup and grenade winding,
if you want to compare cap charge performance to my test, (input power, charge voltage, and
charge time), I would be interested to hear your results for comparison. T-1000, are you able
to try this test for comparison?

I see two possibilities here if Ruslan's video was legit:
1) We may need to have a specially wound output transformer or other special method
to take the output power off the grenade, otherwise far from OU.
2) Maybe only people who live in certain areas with special earth ground characteristics
can have a chance of seeing OU from these types of setups. If that is true, then
if you live in a area with the wrong earth ground characteristics, then you may
never see OU from these setups no matter what you try. I don't know if that is the case
however, but it is something to consider. :)

If no one is able to try this with a kacher and grenade winding for comparison, then
maybe I will set that up when I get the chance and try it for performance comparison purposes. :)


T-1000

Quote from: Void on September 11, 2017, 11:54:29 PM
Taking 0.7A as the average input current, the input power to this setup was:
Input Power = 12.8V x 0.7A = 8.96W
That's an efficiency of only about 40%, although I suspect that charging around 1uF
using a kacher and grenade winding like Ruslan did may not give very much better
performance, as I think the kacher circuit using a 12V battery draws more input
power than the flyback circuit I was using. If anyone has a kacher setup and grenade winding,
if you want to compare cap charge performance to my test, (input power, charge voltage, and
charge time), I would be interested to hear your results for comparison. T-1000, are you able
to try this test for comparison?

When you directly charge capacitor from the HV output it will be always similar to this case. But the case we are after is, - when the the capacitor is in near field (ref - Tesla Ambient Receiver patent - http://www.nuenergy.org/uploads/radiantenergy.gif ) and the charge of capacitor is from the ambient source and the the main power source is not used on that moment.
I may suggest try place scope leads near Tesla coil and to the cap with voltage divider between cap and ground. Then see if you get that effect happening at certain voltages and frequencies of the Tesla coil. Myself still in middle of that process so cannot tell definite results at the moment.

Cheers!

NickZ

   Itsu: You mentioned:
   "My ½w RC snubber resistors are not heating up, not with a small load (40W), not with heavy load (400W), but they have higher ohmic values (170 Ohm) then yours (46 Ohm).
It could be that you need to re-measure your ringing signal with your new scope (without any snubber components), it could be that we end up with some higher valued  resistors which would have less current (and heat) going through them.

Finally, i also have a varistor across each drain / source, it could be that those have a limiting effect on the spike so the RC resistors are doing less work.
Perhaps you could install your varistor (14D271K , see  http://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg509339/#msg509339) again across each drain source."
                                                                                   end quote.

   Itsu: I'll install the 271 varistors back onto the drain/source and see how it goes. They were working pretty well by themselves  before, when I thought they were a blue HV capacitor instead. If I can keep the peaks from going over 225v, I think that it will be ok. As the current heating of snubber resistors or the fets is probably due to the over 200v peaks, I believe.

Void

Hi T-1000. Yes, OK, when I get a chance I will try working with a tesla coil and grenade winding setup
to see how things compare in performance. This may be a good way to adjust the tuning of the tesla coil
for optimum performance. A tuning with the fastest cap charge time and highest efficiency may well
be where you want to tune, even if that alone is still not OU.
All the best...