Seven times more energy output than input: Power Multiplier Device

[tagor]

Excess Power = Po - Pi
= 4000575.6 - 666762.6
= 3,333,813 watts
very simple calculation

you are a very good magician !

[Neo-X]

Lol i dont know how to calculate it.. Someone help to solve this..

[CuriousChris]

Here is an example of perpetual waterwheel http://youtube.com/watch?v=-KtFZMN7_Bw

Russell Lee is right. The slower the fall and the faster the heavy object ascend, the more energy is being extracted from the gravity.

What makes you think that video shows perpetual motion? Apart from the title that is.

[CuriousChris]

To calculate whether this device will work. you need to look at each component of the overall process.

There are three main components to look at

1/ How heavy must the weights be to raise the fluid to the high side of the mechanism?
2/ Once the fluid is raised how much energy is required to rotate the wheel to move the liquid to the lower position again.
3/ How much energy is extracted in 1/ and is it greater than 2/. in other words is it overunity?

For 1 you need to look at hydraulics for the answer. Andrea's excellent diagram is a clue to the answer. you need to understand hydraulics to understand how much fluid can be moved.

For 2 it is imperative to calculate the CENTER OF GRAVITY for the wheel. if its below the axle (it is) then you need to use energy to make the wheel rotate. the center of gravity is not always intuitive. For example in this mechanism the heavy weight goes to the lowest position to raise the fluid this moves the center of balance well below the axle. therefore a LOT of force is required to rotate the wheel. the fluid moving to the top of the wheel DOES NOT balance out the weight.

For 3 don't forget to subtract the force required to raise the fluid to the top reservoir before you calculate the force available to generate electricity.

Increase the mass on the other end of the rope so that it is just at your own mass value and pull, that would be the most force you can apply without assistance.  Now add more mass and pull, you are still applying the max value that you can but now you go up instead. 

This is incorrect you must increase the force you apply to make yourself lift up off the floor.

For example with your pulley analogy. If the you weigh 70Kg's and the weight you are trying to lift weighs 60kg's then to lift that weight you must apply 60Kg's of force.

Now if you increase the weight to say 75kg's then you must apply at least 70kg's of lift to raise your own feet off the floor. thus you have increased the amount of 'pull' you put into the rope.

You cannot use terms like "the max value you can" this is a meaningless phrase. In the above example assuming you had enough strength to lift yourself off the floor. and you applied ALL this force (strength) to the 60Kg weight then the weight would rise very rapidly, much faster than when you lifted yourself off the floor.

This difference in speed is immortalised in the formula F=ma

F=Force (strength)
m=mass (60kg or 70kg)
a=(acceleration)

[CuriousChris]

Clearly webby you totally missed my point. your understanding of physics is very low indeed. Please take the time to read some basic physic literature.

The amount of force you can apply is not, read that, NOT limited by gravity. Gravity holds you to the ground ONLY because the weight you are trying to lift is lighter than you. Gravity is NOT limiting the amount of force you apply, gravity is CHOOSING(if you can put it that way) to let the smaller mass rise above the ground because of the two weights it is the lightest.

Now I understand  TinselKoala's terse response. trying to explain even the simplest physics to some people is an extraordinary waste of time.

in the words of Tinsel

It doesn't work!