Seven times more energy output than input: Power Multiplier Device

[andrea]

www.squidoo.com/pinwheelgenerator   This generator produces at least seven times the energy than it needs to run.
                Thank you, Russell Lee

This project could be a good idea, but there's an enormous problem: the weights are not able to press water from the down piston to the upper, if the difference between weight eand the amount of water is not very high. I think that would be necessary a difference of 15 to one to push water at the proper height... This drawing explain the problem, was well explained yet by Rafael Ti in this previous topic  http://www.overunity.com/12586/mechanical-power-multiplier-device/msg331682/#msg331682

Anyway, the concept - rotation of 90°, and the weight that press water up - is interesting. Someone has suggests for solve the problem?

[Russell Lee]

It's important to remember that  during the elevating of the weights ,the energy is still being generated into the battery (minus whatever energy is being used by the  small motor) so there is nominal battery power loss during this phase.  The second phase just has the excess energy being generated by the fall of the weights. The energy for the ascent is being provided as it takes place, there is nothing needing energy in the second phase to deplete the battery charge so it all gets stored as excess energy not used in the whole process.

Time to rise & fall has nothing to do with it except for determining POWER [rate of doing WORK].

WORK in both instances is Force x Distance/Displacement which is the same for both rise & fall since the mass doesn't change nor the distance traveled.

This assumes NO ordinary system losses to frictions etc which would bring it automatically to sub-unity.

N.B.1. the Work-Energy Equivalence Principle is a doctrine of physics - it says that since Work units are the same as Energy units they are equivalent & interchangeable - therefore Work [fxd] is done to lift a mass & it is given energy of position [PE] which can be released as kinetic energy [KE] to do Work.

N.B.2. Energy is Capability or Capacity to do Work.

N.B.3. example: a hanging weight driven clock is given energy of position by raising the mass - the mass looses height over time - the KE of the mass does not translate into a one for one relationship with PE lost as height decreases - the 'missing' energy is the KE of the clock parts in motion, friction losses to heat, sound, windage etc - the main loss is to 'internal' energy [PE & KE] of the atoms of the system & can be reviewed by researching the history of thermodynamics.

This mass is raised quickly & falls very slowly but it is not OU.

[Neo-X]

@ andrea

Overunity in the picture u posted is possible because if u bend the thin tube at the mark 1kg, the water will flow and u can feedback it to the source. Thats the same principle why a perpetual waterwheel works.

@Russell Lee

Thank you very much for posting this.

[Neo-X]

Here is an example of perpetual waterwheel http://youtube.com/watch?v=-KtFZMN7_Bw

Russell Lee is right. The slower the fall and the faster the heavy object ascend, the more energy is being extracted from the gravity.

[Neo-X]

Okey lets check this theory if this was true using calculation and using the above example. We can say that the input power was the power to move the 500lbs weight on the top (lets say 10meters) for 30second and the output power was the power excerted by gravity to move the weight downward by 10meters for 3minutes.

Input Time = 30s
Output Time = 3x60= 180s
Mass = 500lbs = 226.79kg
Distance = 10m

Work = M x G x D
= 226.79 x 9.8 x 10
= 22225.42 joules

Input Power= W x Ti
= 22225.42 x 30
= 666762.6 watts

Output Power = W x To
= 22225.42 x 180
= 4000575.6 watts

Excess Power = Po - Pi
= 4000575.6 - 666762.6
= 3,333,813 watts
very simple calculation