Opinions please

[penno64]

Feel free to give us your take on this -


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKkxEDrVCtc&feature=plcp


Note : the statement about the coupling of the wheels


Penno

[gauschor]

Interesting.

In his first video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLgK5wDOFt8 he describes that the huge flywheel is powered by the rotations of the small magnet. This sounds inefficient in my opinion, because the small rotor needs much more rotations to get a single rotation of the large flywheel done.

Wouldn't it be more efficient if it was reverse?
Once the flywheel would rotate it could drive the small magnet which in turn rotates much faster and provide more energy. And the flywheel wouldn't need so much power, because it is also supported by the momentum?

(For the ones who missed the part: in his first video he says it's not overunity, but that after switching off the battery it keeps going on a long time, before coming to a halt)

[penno64]

Hi Gauschor,

please note that it is a 2" diametrically magnetised cylinder

Regards, Penno

[plengo]

I think this video is an excellent example of using very little power to acquire equilibrium and therefore only pay for the small difference in lost potential. Potential stored and reused on the weight of the motion of the "fly wheels".


In his case, the fly wheel is so small that one cannot see the value but in larger size one could easily power many generatosr at once for the price of only the difference of potential used from the motion of the heaviest fly wheel.


He is using the battery to run the little motor on the table that, once in balanced and in-sync with the fly wheel (bicycle wheel with magnets), he can spin the little fan in his hands by the cost of an negligible amount of power.


To understand, imagine you pushing your daughter in a swing until she achieves the highest height while swinging, now it will only cost you much less energy to maintain the motion, much less than it was necessary to get there (you pay for to get there big time). Now, to maintain the swinging frequency you must pay very little. With magnets in the picture, you will reduce the price you pay for the negligible price even more because the magnets have a much higher transfer power rate than we have and therefore the magnet can, without friction for example, transfer the power to the fly wheel. Also the magnetic field does have (as an effect) a very "balloon pressure" field that bounces back on every action (reaction) infinitely until is fully transferred all the energy in motion.


So with his setup the magic is indeed the magnets doing the transfer of motion energy (kinetic) into more motion at a ratio of his choosing. If this setup was much bigger, like 10x (like energy companies do with their kinetic wheel storing power systems), he could have an amazing amount of power constantly available (in motion form) equivalent of the square of the weight of wheel, not the linear relation as people think.


I say not linear because you only see the difference (linear compared to squared) at very large scale which usually it is so large that we don't even bother measuring correctly. So it looks very linear indeed. Power companies have great difficulty in storing, at a measurable level, the level of energy stored in their systems. Lots of overflows happens and they are clueless how to control so they are using now kinetic energy to buffer the unexpected fluctuations in available power. Kinetic has an advantage to dielectric (like capacitors or battery at very large level) that it is very tolerant to extreme variations in input power since matter absorbs motion much faster and with less impact than dielectric energy.


So a fly wheel is much more capable of storing kinetic energy than dielectric devices (capacitor, batteries and so on) have. You can swing 100 pounds of matter faster than you can save one kilowatt power in a 100 amp/h battery for the same relative time.


Magnets when used as motion transfer devices (approaching south against another south pole will move BOTH at an infinitely friction less transfer rate of motion with infinite re bounces (reaction to the initial motion of the approaching south pole) until all kinetic energy is transferred. This transferring since is squared will produce excess energy but it is not readily visible to us without proper measuring and larger scale. At a lower scale speed is the next frontier.


One can spin a magnet at 10000 rpm (as we have seen in youtube videos of SSGs devices without wheels, just the magnet spinning over the coil) with incredible low amount of input power.


I think this area of energy transfer of kinetic energy using magnets has been very little explored and published to the secular world.

Fausto.

[mscoffman]

@All

I guess I'm not especially impressed with this device. One knows from
motor design that an unloaded spinning shaft is not necessarily supplying
much energy, primarily wind resistance to the rotor and friction to the
bearings.

Also the comment:

>This sounds inefficient in my opinion, because the small rotor needs
> much more rotations to get a single rotation of the large flywheel done.

This I think is incorrect. The wheels are not in mechanical contact
therefore it is the ratios of the magnetic length, the length of the
magnets, that is of concern *not the length of the wheel circumference*
Also the large wheel could easily be rotating at a harmonic ratio
with the small one and most likely is doing so in this movie.

:S:MarkSCoffman