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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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forest

Quote from: Cadman on August 21, 2014, 12:58:52 PM
Hmmm... my guess would be, none.

Cheers

Edit: That's a trick question, right?

Yes and no and ..no really...It's just very different point of view  ;) It's like a problem of big stone, you have to push up to hill, while having superior method you can do the same using less force (using wheels). I think Figuera patented his design because he experimentally found and was sure that those lines of force you mentioned are not as a whole used to generate electrical output in ordinary generators !
That's the only resonable explanation imho...

marathonman

Thank you Cadman N Shadow for those links both seam to be very good quality Iron. i don't know About the quality of the iron from Cadman's link yet  as i haven't gotten a response yet but Shadows link has iron called Vim Var Core Iron that's 99.8% pure Iron which will make awesome outer core material.
even for you Robert Adams fans.
THANK YOU BOTH!
"Correction both links are ASTM 848 same specs pure iron" Vim Var Core and Best Mag / Best Mag Strip.
As per Bajac below i will try. Y core might be bigger though ????

bajac

Most of the inventors do not really know the broad principle of operation of their inventions. 95% or more of the inventors fail to answer the question of, what is the invention? The answers of these inventors almost always contain construction details that have nothing to do with the broad concept of their inventions but that really limit the scope of intellectual property in their patent claims.  When these inventors hire a patent lawyer to draft their patents, the lawyers also usually fail very badly in securing a fair parcel of intellectual property for these inventors.


What I generally see as the broadest claim in all these patents are what is called "picture claims." A picture claim is an verbal description of whatever you see in one of the embodiment drafted in a patent. A picture claim is very specific and has a very very limited scope of intellectual property. That is why is so easy for competitor to design around an original concept disclosed in a patent. Therefore, be very proactive in the drafting of a patent if you are using a lawyer. I have experience with that.


I am saying all of the above because the Figuera's 1902 patent disclosed a very broad and important concept such as "BUILDING THE INDUCED COILS OF ROTARY GENERATORS WITH NON-MAGNETIC AND NON-METALLIC CORES." If Figuera's 1902 patent had stated the broadest claim based on this concept, then, any patent such as Flynn, my embodiment presented in figure 12 etc., would have paid royalties to Figuera within the the 20 years of enforcement of the patent. It is very important if you invent anything to be aware of these issues. If you are interested in knowing more about patent claiming, you can read "Invention Analysis And Claiming: A Patent Lawyer's Guide" second edition, by Ronald D. Slusky. This book is a classic.


On the other hand, I do not have too much time left because I have to go back to my other chores. I want to finalize the paper posted last Wednesday 8/19/14 by next week. If you have a comment or concern, please, post it in this forum so it can be addressed in this last revision.


Thanks again to all.
Bajac

forest

Maybe some inventors didn't knew exactly why their devices worked, but imho the reason for patenting such way is simple. You cannot patent a wheel, you cannot patent a method being underlying principle of all those inventions. You cannot patent explanation of mistake in physics law.
Am I right ?

bajac

forest,


You cannot patent the wheel because it is already known and invented.


But, you can patent all solutions to a problem you discovered, if no one else was aware that problem even existed. For example, Figuera did not have the right to patent all solutions to the problem of the dragging forces in an electric generator because it was a well known problem. However, he had the right to patent all solutions (method) for avoiding the drag whenever the solutions included induced coils with non-magnetic cores. No one knew that the counter torque in electrical generators could have been significantly reduced by using such method to the point of making said generators over unity.


Bajac