Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[bajac]

It is my opinion, one supported by experiment that the attached image is an aerial view.  It is my opinion that the inventor is calling our attention into three specific locations and asking us to consider the relations between the three. 

Regards

Erfinder,

If we refer to the diagram you posted in your reply, I agree that it is a kind of a plan view. If you assume all electromagnets - N, S, and Y - are wound in the same direction and also that each N and S lineup are connected in a similar fashion, then the battery connections and polarities of the electromagnets shown by Figuera in this drawing make sense. The top electrogmagnets will always maintain a south pole at the top of the iron core while the bottom electromagnets will maintain a north pole also at the top of their iron cores. The electromagnets in the centre labeled as Y, do not have a fix polarity because the voltages and currents induced are AC.

To me, the scope and intent of the 1908 patent is clear. If others want to claim that Figuera meant a different design or that he was trying to hide the true concept of his invention, then it is their interpretation. However, the description and drawings in the 1908 patent are vey clear and unambiguous.

[forest]

Hi Forest ,
I really can not honestly answer your question ...I am curious as everyone in general who frequent this type of site and study this kind of things.
My findings from the research on this subject are based on experimentation like most people.

Now my thoughts and my interpretations:
Electricity is a form of conversion of energy and i think the first and most important thing is improve the actual systems of conversion  because don't have efficiency in the conventional way.

If we collect  a magnetic collapse of a coil to a cap, the collected result is proportional with the magnitude of the coil magnetic field magnetization. To generate this magnetic field you need current circulating in coil by a source dipole.
Now if you increase the magnetic field of the coil, the  magnetic collapse when you shut off the main power source (State 0),  will be produce at higher voltage and electrostatic current in the cap, greater than main source .
The charge of capacitor will be more faster than you charge with conventionally power source.

And how to use this, to increase the magnetic field without increase the consume of current in main source ?
You need a way to create a fast pulse of high current with the collected power of magnetic collapse coil, and storage in a cap , to create a rapidly discharges of several pulses of high amps much higher that  main source can provide, combined with high voltage pulse that can be provided by other coil  with BEMF.

The effect of the combination of high current pulses combined with a source of high voltage causes the particles of the atomic nucleus exchange states very quickly, negating the disintegrating forces of positive energy of the protons. At one point, a proton has a positive charge, and a neutron has
neutral charge. and the next moment, a neutron is replaced by positive charge and the proton is replaced by a neutral charge. This exchange of states occurs in unimaginable speeds, thereby nullifying the repellent forces of the same load elements generating a cancellation in the repulsion of two equal poles in the coils. For me is the reason to explain the green gap that occur in my tests.
I think  this gap color result is a Cherenkov radiation .

Read about Tesla colorado springs notes and Ev gray circuits and see the similarity in the effects.

This excess energy or what we can call in my opinion never will be possible measured correctly by conventional tools  because  one of the points used in the conventional measure instruments, (resistance,) seems to be in some form ignored in this type of circuits because their high impedance , caused by the differential of potential in circuit and the reactance  of the coils.

I'm just with my thoughts  and puzzle what I read and test man Man people say that im crazy

Ps -Sorry for the English I wish you can understand what I try explain.

Thanks and good work

Thank You Nelson. I doubt it is related to atomic change, however. I think it is simply electrostatic force being not static. High frequency magnetic field disturbance, maybe caused by cosmic rays.So called radiant energy. There are other possibilities also but not so many and all lead to external power source. The simplest idea is magnetic field being whirl of energy so magnetic field CAN do work and Figuera proved electricity comes from magnetic field not mechanical power.
I see you are far ahead of us here, and I must state I'm jealous. I was not prepared in 2005 when I found radiant energy emanating from my car coil experiment and precharging all metal objects in nearby. Unfortunately I was working with low frequencies circuit at 200Hz so it was dangerous (at 20kV!!!). I was lucky (to stay alive)  and unlucky. Now I know your explanation is perfectly clear . Thank You.

[bajac]

Hi Forest ,
I really can not honestly answer your question ...I am curious as everyone in general who frequent this type of site and study this kind of things.
My findings from the research on this subject are based on experimentation like most people.

Now my thoughts and my interpretations:
Electricity is a form of conversion of energy and i think the first and most important thing is improve the actual systems of conversion  because don't have efficiency in the conventional way.

If we collect  a magnetic collapse of a coil to a cap, the collected result is proportional with the magnitude of the coil magnetic field magnetization. To generate this magnetic field you need current circulating in coil by a source dipole.
Now if you increase the magnetic field of the coil, the  magnetic collapse when you shut off the main power source (State 0),  will be produce at higher voltage and electrostatic current in the cap, greater than main source .
The charge of capacitor will be more faster than you charge with conventionally power source.

And how to use this, to increase the magnetic field without increase the consume of current in main source ?
You need a way to create a fast pulse of high current with the collected power of magnetic collapse coil, and storage in a cap , to create a rapidly discharges of several pulses of high amps much higher that  main source can provide, combined with high voltage pulse that can be provided by other coil  with BEMF.

The effect of the combination of high current pulses combined with a source of high voltage causes the particles of the atomic nucleus exchange states very quickly, negating the disintegrating forces of positive energy of the protons. At one point, a proton has a positive charge, and a neutron has
neutral charge. and the next moment, a neutron is replaced by positive charge and the proton is replaced by a neutral charge. This exchange of states occurs in unimaginable speeds, thereby nullifying the repellent forces of the same load elements generating a cancellation in the repulsion of two equal poles in the coils. For me is the reason to explain the green gap that occur in my tests.
I think  this gap color result is a Cherenkov radiation .

Read about Tesla colorado springs notes and Ev gray circuits and see the similarity in the effects.

This excess energy or what we can call in my opinion never will be possible measured correctly by conventional tools  because  one of the points used in the conventional measure instruments, (resistance,) seems to be in some form ignored in this type of circuits because their high impedance , caused by the differential of potential in circuit and the reactance  of the coils.

I'm just with my thoughts  and puzzle what I read and test man Man people say that im crazy

Ps -Sorry for the English I wish you can understand what I try explain.

Thanks and good work

Nelsonrochaa,

I find your description very interesting. I also did some research on this subject. I published a paper proposing what I believe to be the bases of operation of the Edwin Gray tube and devices that use only coils. I posted this paper back on 2012 at this site. You can find a copy of this paper in this link

http://www.scribd.com/doc/205259930/Tesla-Gray-Mark-Meyer-R04

I think what you stated is very close to what I proposed in the paper. Have you read this document?

Thank you for your help on this thread!

PS: for some reason I can find the document in this site.

[marathonman]

It is my opinion, one supported by experiment that the attached image is an aerial view.  It is my opinion that the inventor is calling our attention into three specific locations and asking us to consider the relations between the three. 

Specifically our attention is directed downward, into what is commonly referred to as the North pole, and into what is commonly referred to as the South pole.  It must be noted that the polarity of the middle winding is not indicated, and I believe the lack of polarity here is saying as much as would be said if there was a polarity indicated.  I am of the opinion that the polarity isn't present because the coil is not oriented like the other two coils.  I am of the opinion that coil "y" is arranged in such a manner that the flux spinning around N and S "run into and through" "y" from one end to the other.  When viewed from the perspective of spin directions we find that at the location between N and S the flux is unidirectional.  Here we find "y" is cleverly positioned in the location of not only unidirectional  flux, but also maximum flux density.

I gather from the disclosure that the inventor assumes that the reader of the document is aware of the spin directions associated with N and S.  This, my perspective on this changes things, (they did for me anyway) there is a very specific message being shared by the author, and to me it appears he is demonstrating that a specific geometry is required to capitalize on his invention, very simple but specific relations.  This disclosure shows me that the inventor had a very deep understanding of the fields, and knew how to relate the inducing to the induced.  The block diagram is just that, a block diagram, one which points us "a" direction.  As far as I can tell, after much reading through this thread, this particular direction, the one I am suggesting, has not been considered.  I hope that my perspective, aids one or more of you who are desirous of seeing something materialize out of the effort going into this area of research.



Regards

I agree,
i think there  is a reason for the opposite wiring of the Primaries. the spin direction is a viable  and rational  aspect of the Figueras devise  and it could quite possibly be a missing key to the figueras devise just so easily overlooked .

[nelsonrochaa]

Thank You Nelson. I doubt it is related to atomic change, however. I think it is simply electrostatic force being not static. High frequency magnetic field disturbance, maybe caused by cosmic rays.So called radiant energy. There are other possibilities also but not so many and all lead to external power source. The simplest idea is magnetic field being whirl of energy so magnetic field CAN do work and Figuera proved electricity comes from magnetic field not mechanical power.
I see you are far ahead of us here, and I must state I'm jealous. I was not prepared in 2005 when I found radiant energy emanating from my car coil experiment and precharging all metal objects in nearby. Unfortunately I was working with low frequencies circuit at 200Hz so it was dangerous (at 20kV!!!). I was lucky (to stay alive)  and unlucky. Now I know your explanation is perfectly clear . Thank You.

Hi Forest,
I Want to tell you that you never achieve some relevant result in this matter if you use low frequency 200Hz . You need to start at 1kz  at least.

When you say : " and all lead to external power source" -----Yes you have true ! you need ever a power source to drive circuit parts. but in this stage is not the point !
Think in this way:
Imagine you need drive a motor 12v  1000w . You need 1200A of current to drive the motor at best ratio ok ?
Now if you have a method to create the equivalent magnetic field using not 1200A in the load but only 10A, how you will consider this ? A overunity machine ? or a efficiency  method to drive a 1000W motor ?

You say " I found radiant energy emanating from my car coil experiment and precharging all metal objects in nearby"

Yes it true . I observe the same . I can tell you a curious thing that happened with capacitors charge.  The capacitors charges without  noting difference in polarity .
A example :
If you put a electrolytic capacitor to charge you have to respect  their +- configuration. But i can assure you  that cap will charge rapidly without distinguish - or + in their charge.   

You say " electricity comes from magnetic field not mechanical power"
Yes  it true ! Figuera use a form of magnetic amplification with blind eye schema  CW-CCW coils annulling the repulsing NN confrontation field forces of coils.
The  output power comes from the magnetic field generated in the process not from source.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW2YVh044JI

I know it's hard to understand sometimes what I say and show in my videos with my crap circuits
Thanks and good luck