Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[Fernandez]

Fernandez, Sorry but I do not get to understand your post. Are you suggesting to connect the electromagnets core to a battery? What kind of effect are you looking for?


Thanks

I will have to take a pic or make a video to funny understand.
In essence you are building a motor less all the internal parts. There is only one magnetic part the other magnetic element comes from the current that traverses the iron core.

The effect I described above used a permanent magnet to view the effect. So you only have 1 robust low cost magnetic field. The second magnetic field comes from the current passing through the core material (at 90 degrees) this flash of current distorts the larger magnetic field. When the current is removed the larger field springs back.

If you hold the current steady your magnet or electromagnet will try to rotate. This is because it has been disturbed off its natural position and tries to find equilibrium.

I will post a pic next weekend as I am busy this week.

-Fernndez

[RandyFL]

I don't understand...

We went from the " Figuera " being the next best thing since sliced bread back to wrapping a coil around a nail...

btw...Did you know that Patrick Kelly took down most of what was on the " Figuera " in His eBook.

Whats next... the arduino electrifies the coil around nail.... 

All the Best
PS I am going back to the videos of " woopy " and " Kehyo "

Lastly...Fernandez this isn't a dig or anything derogatory against your work ( please keep working and sharing your results and your thoughts )

[hanon]

btw...Did you know that Patrick Kelly took down most of what was on the " Figuera " in His eBook.

Randy,


I will tell the story of Figuera description into Patrick´s ebook: In october 2012 Bajac published his descrption of the Figuera generator (the one in post #1 in this thread). Later this interpretation was copied by Patrick´s into his ebook. Therefore the description included into the ebook is just the description delivered by Bajac


After studying in deep the text of the Figuera´s patent I can not agree with the interpretation of Bajac, based on transformer-type cores and air-gaps, both concept not mentioned in any place of the original Figuera patent text. For me this is a genuine design , but not related to the original Figuera intentions. This is my guess, I am not sure because I don´t have a crystal ball nor I have succeded with my other prototypes. If you have not read the original patent text I will encourage you to do it with open mind and not trying to fit it into the split primary transformer. If this is not the right configuration then it is doing more bad that good because now everyone read it and try to fit into that model (except for NRamaswami that has gone into using straight solenoids, which for myself is more similar to Figuera´s ideas)


In my case I always quote the text from the original patents. I just quote the Figuera/Buforn text and I try to give and interpretation of what I read or what I see that is lacking. It is up to you to read the original patent text or just the interpretation included in the ebook

[RandyFL]

Hanon,
This is not something ( that I state ) against you or anybody else that comes into the forum to share ideas, thoughts or to show their work...

I asked Mr. Kelly which apparatus should I build and He stated... The Figuera. I built the apparatus that Mr. Kelly designed and it works ( I have showed that ) I have seen the videos, as you and others have, that Woopy ( Laurent ) and Kehyo have made. I asked Kehyo his perspective on it and you have it here in previous posts...On the 1st video that Woopy made... its self explanatory... His power supply ran the apparatus and His 24 volt battery ran the transformers and in the secondary s produced light on the Led s...

My point is this... I don't think Bajac's interpretation ( or anybody else's interpretation ) is wrong until.... UNTIL its proven wrong. I say we keep working until we find what works... and I would be the first to suggest it be put back until proven other wise...IMHO. 

All the Best

[tak22]

Nobody has say a a word about my previous post, copied below.


How can you use both poles of each electromagnet if you pile the coil as :N--y--S--y--N--y--S--N--y--S   as the 1914 suggest?


Any other option apart from using straight bars cores in all "N/S" electromagnets and "y" coils?




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hanon,


The patent shows the electromagnets in what is assumed to be plan view as just rectangles, and I've yet to see any explanation or drawing that makes sense to interpret that to mean he used "C" or "I" or bars. Very common back then is the horseshoe shape and it fits with the illustration and description, so the "rectangles" would be the ends. Just an observation ....