Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[Doug1]

 citfa
Third time was not the charm, take a break try again later when your head is clear you missed every novel feature of this invention.I can only guess your trying to multi task your thoughts which is like being a jack of all trades and an expert of none.

[norman6538]

I have read completely through that patent 3 times now and I don't see anywhere that Tesla said it would run itself.  Where does anyone get that idea from the patent?  What Tesla is describing is an early version of an induction motor.  This patent is a way to run an induction motor from a single phase source instead of a 2 or 3 phase source.  His secondary coils as he calls them produce an opposing field shifted in phase to cause the rotation of the armature.  That is all this patent is about.

I read through and did not find it either.
So are we talking about 555,190 Feb 25, 1896?
if so what page and line number did I miss?

Norman

[antijon]

No, I also have to disagree. I see nothing in the patent that claims it could power itself or generate for an outside load.

He used "transformer" action to provide a second phase. This is the closed circuit he was referring to.

I'm not sure where I read it, but he mentioned before of using a transformer with a motor; the primary of the transformer in series with one winding, and the secondary of the transformer powering the winding at 90 degrees. This patent must be his finished product- the transformer is included in the motor. This works because the secondary of the transformer produces a current before the reactance of the primary of the transformer allows line current to pass.

Since the advent of the permanent split phase capacitor motor, this type of single phase powered motor is outdated. Heavier and more expensive, but probably more reliable, as capacitors fail quite often.

[citfta]

citfa
Third time was not the charm, take a break try again later when your head is clear you missed every novel feature of this invention.I can only guess your trying to multi task your thoughts which is like being a jack of all trades and an expert of none.

Doug,

I will admit I am not a brain surgeon or a NASA scientist but one thing I do know a lot about is electric motors.  I have worked in electronics for over 50 years and on motors and generators and motor controllers for over 30 years.  There is nothing in this patent we are discussing that suggests this motor can run itself.

Now I am NOT saying that Tesla may not have built overunity machines but I am saying this is NOT one of them

Respectfully,
Carroll

[antijon]

Here it is: http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1888-05-16.htm

He states,

Two more motors of this kind have suggested themselves to me.  1. A motor with one of its circuits in series with a transformer and the other in the secondary of the transformer.

This paper was published the same year that particular patent was filed.