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Overunity Machines Forum



Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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antijon

You're right, Hanon. The key to his invention is his method. No reactance on the inducers producing real power, and the 90 degree pulses which create a large B field that changes incredibly fast. I'm still planning to test your design, BTW.

All in all, this process has made me think about how we understand concepts today. In this device, or any coil powered by AC that has no reactance, we consider that real power, not reactive power as in a transformer. In terms of a generator, this real power is what they use to gauge the exciter power by in ampere-turns. Because, of course, if the power were reactive then no power would really be used.

But in the same sense, modern terms confuse things. As we know, a coil's inductive reactance can be corrected, either by a resistance in series, or by capacitive reactance in series. We say that this corrects the power factor by bringing the current and voltage in phase, to produce real power. However, we have also mystified this by calling it a resonant circuit. Now we imagine radio towers and Tesla. But in reality, any inductive device can be matched with a capacitor to nullify reactance. Even a 60HZ transformer. Of course I don't know what the output would look like, or what the turns ratio would do. But I can guarantee it would be creating a B field based on the ampere-turns that changes polarity 60 times a second.

marathonman

Here is a little info one might want to read.

This is taken off of hanon's link he posted and help translate; http://www.alpoma.net/tecob/?page_id=8258

" In the two patents can be seen how ingeniously and by mechanical methods, the engineer tried to generate electrical energy inside a coil by varying the flow of two opposite and opposing magnetic fields, trying to get into the machine the same characteristic behavior of a conventional generator, but without moving parts".

this sounds like 180 Degrees and two NN Electromagnets to me, or SS if you so desire. think ?

this is Quote from patent;
"In short, the resistance makes the function of a splitter of current because those current not going to excite some electromagnets excites others and so on; it can be said that electrodes N and S works simultaneously and in opposite way because while the first ones are filling up with current, the seconds are emptying and while repeating this effect continuously and orderly a constant variation of the magnetic fields within which is placed the induced circuit can be maintained.

again this kinda sounds like 180 Degrees to me. think ?

antijon

Marathonman, the coils are located at 180 degrees but the excitation current is such that the two currents overlap before going to zero volts. This is 90 degrees electrically. Hanon provided a good image of the waveform in this post: http://overunity.com/12794/re-inventing-the-wheel-part1-clemente_figuera-the-infinite-energy-machine/msg456798/#msg456798

marathonman

Top pic Sine/cosine @ 90 Degrees.

Bottom pic Hanon's  Sine/Sine @ 180 Degrees.

Come again.

antijon

haha, yeah that's 2 phase AC, full wave. And what would it look like if you rectified that wave to a DC current? See Hanon's image.

Look we can argue about the semantics, but 180 degree is different in both phase and polarity than Figuera's wave. In AC circuits, 180 degrees refers to polarity or phase. The image appears the same as Figuera's, but it's 180 degrees in polarity. One is fully positive, the other fully negative. The currents would be equal and opposite, and in Figuera's inducers, would cancel each other. Not the same as one fully positive, the other zero, where the net B field will be in one direction.

The bottom image shows an AC current rectified. The DC pulses are 180 degrees apart in phase. If Figuera used this waveform to power his inducers, the combined magnetic fields would produce an AC wave, and the behavior would resemble a transformer. But lucky for us, Figuera described his commutator as producing currents that increase and decrease at the same time. 180 degree phase doesn't do that, only 90 degree phase does.