Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[darediamond]

If you look to the left of the threads... there are advertisers. If you wanted to advertise on Hanon's site you should've asked Hanon...if you wanna advertise here " why " ... you should make your own thread. Were trying to get to the bottom of the " Figuera " if you're NOT then you are just as Hanon said........... A noise ....

..................the winner of arguments has to prove it!

All the Best
R

Talk they say is cheap. Keep up with your odd mentality.

[darediamond]

A FUCKING SPARK PLUG. what the fuck is wrong with you stupid morons??? does anyone even read or follow the patents or do you people just pass a tray of crack around and post what ever falls out of your babbling mouths.

I have NEVER in my life ever heard such stupid shit in my life that has come out of your stupid uneducated mouth's of the people on this forum.

i will not sit by and let you stupid fucking morons ruin what so many have strove to accomplish in this forum of Figuera. trying to spread the truth NOT BULL SHIT to people that want to learn.

I personally hope all you fudge sickle bitches get shot by the fuckers that paid you to do so much damage. when my second device is built, the one i am building now i will send it around the fucking world and i hope all you fudge sickle bitches die.

if it's not Figuera GET THE FUCK OFF THIS FORUM !

Doug, Hanon, Randy and others...... i think it's hopeless.

Mara is that you are pained seeing figuera device being Practically demystified and further beneficially modified and presented by INTELIGEMT people like Mr. Ramaswami, Core etc or you have been converted to a Typical Robotic Zombie or what?

Any Electromagnetic Generator device that will achieve Overunity must have it Primaries switched at high frequency to reduce driving input power in Watt.
Ramaswami is toeing that line planning to use Spark Plug or Spark
Gap as he stated. Other ways to switch at high frequency includes the use of Mosfet and ICs. Mechanical way to switch at high frequency is the use of one and only Mechanical commutator but this have some disadvantages.
One Lenz is negated in any Electromagnetic Generator driven at high frequency high voltage(optional), the Radiant Power would easily multiply the output Power at the secondary.

Learn to be respectful of others even if you disagree with there views.

[RandyFL]

Talk they say is cheap. Keep up with your odd mentality.

You're pushing yourself into the corner of irrelevance...by your insistence! How odd...

Good Luck in your endeavors...this is the last response.

Bye....Bye

ps Yes MarathonMan its " hopeless "

[NRamaswami]

Marathonman:

I would urge you to go through the 1908 patent again..

See http://www.alpoma.net/tecob/?page_id=8258 The portions that need your attention are posted in bold below from the link.


PATENT by CLEMENTE FIGUERA (year 1908) No. 44267 (Spain)

Ministry of Development General Board of agriculture, industry and Commerce. Patents of Invention. Expired. Dossier number 44267. Instruction at the request of D. Clemente Figuera. Representative Mr. Buforn. Presented in the register of the Ministry in the 31st of october of 1908, at 11:55 received in the negotiated in the 2nd of november of 1908.
ELECTRICAL GENERATOR "FIGUERA"

BACKGROUND

if within a spinning magnetic field we rotate a closed circuit placed at right angles to the lines of force a current will be induced for as long as there is movement , and whose sign will depend on the direction in which the induced circuit moves.
This is the foundation of all magnetic machines and electric dynamos from the primitive, invented by Pixii, France and modified and improved later by Clarke until the current dynamos of today.

The principle where is based this theory, carries the unavoidable need for the movement of the induced circuit or the inductor circuit, and therefore these machines are taken as transformer of mechanical work into electricity.

PRINCIPLE OF THE INVENTION

Watching closely what happens in a Dynamo in motion, is that the turns of the induced circuit approaches and moves away from the magnetic centers of the inductor magnet or electromagnets, and those turns,  while spinning, go through sections of the magnetic  field of different power, because, while this has its maximum attraction in the center of the core of each electromagnet, this action will weaken as the induced  is separated from the center of the electromagnet, to increase again, when the induced is approaching the center of another electromagnet with opposite sign to the first one.

Because we all know that the effects that are manifested when a closed circuit approaches and moves away from a magnetic center are the same as when, this circuit being still and motionless, the magnetic field is increased and reduced in intensity;  since any variation , occurring in the flow traversing a circuit is producing electrical  induced current .It was considered the possibility of building a machine that would work, not in the principle of movement, as do the current dynamos, but using the principle of increase and decrease, this is the variation of the power of the magnetic field, or the electrical current which produces it.

The voltage from the total current of the current dynamos is the sum of partial induced currents born in each one of the turns of the induced. Therefore it matters little to these induced currents if they were obtained by the turning of the induced, or by the variation of the magnetic flux that runs through them; but in the first case, a greater source of mechanical work than obtained electricity is required, and in the second case, the force necessary to achieve the variation of flux is so insignificant that it can be derived without any inconvenience, from the one supplied by the machine.


Until the present no machine based on this principle has been applied yet to the production of large electrical currents, and which among other advantages, has suppressed any necessity for motion and therefore the force needed to produce it.

In order to privilege the application to the production of large industrial electrical currents, on the principle that says that "there is production of induced electrical current provided that you change in any way the flow of force through the induced circuit," seems that it is enough with the previously exposed; however, as this application need to materialize in a machine, there is need to describe it in order to see how to carry out a practical application of said principle.

This principle is not new since it is just a consequence of the laws of induction stated by Faraday in the year 1831: what it is new and requested to privilege is the application of this principle to a machine which produces large industrial electrical currents which until now cannot be obtained but transforming mechanical work into electricity.

Let's therefore make the description of a machine based on the prior principle which is being privileged; but it must be noted, and what is sought is the patent for the application of this principle, that all machines built based on this principle, will be included in the scope of this patent, whatever the form and way that has been used to make the application.

I hope you read and realize that What Figuera sough for is a Patent for a Principle which is not granted now..The principle is clearly explained by him. It uses motionless electromagnetic generators where only the field is moved. This is what precisely I have done.

Secondly whether it uses a spark plug or not if the movement of fields compression and expansion of magnetic fields is done in the core, then the device is obviously based on the Figuera Principle. No one obtains patents for principles and only for specific devices. While you are focussing only on one specific device and does not appear to state the best mode of operating the device or its essential components since I have done this experiment many many times I do know that I have been following this principle.

I do not consider the rotary device as an essential feature of the Figuera device. It is of course true by exact replication of his device we can avoid patent problems but since I have found that the secondary wound under the Primary in inducing electromagnets also produce induced current and the opposing electromagnet principle is also applicable to them we only need to create two situations.

a. A saturation of central core where only secondary electromagnets are present or

b. the magentic field strength of the secondary is greater than the primary electromagnets

or C. The voltage of the secondary crosses a value where the induced electricity is in excess of the input.

Therefore your restrictive interpretations are negated by Figuera himself. Please read the Patent again..Claiming what I say only is correct and others are not correct is inappropriate.

[Doug1]

"I do not consider the rotary device as an essential feature of the Figuera device."

  That is only true if you can get it to work.By that ,to be working remove the source after it is working and have it continue to operate indefinitely. It's a short list of requirements to be working properly.