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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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Doug1

Hannon
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/hframe.html  Use the formulas to double check if your using odd ball methods. Yes odd ball as in not what would be the first choice for a professional generator engineer.
  Dis-information ? How can a person use both pole faces when their coil is in the middle of the magnets body? Assuming your using induction from a magnetic field without electrically connected or continuous cores where the eddy currents are shared by both the magnetic field and the induced coils. That seems more like a transformer and not at all like a generator.In a transformer core the best you get out is if you operate it as a magnetic amplifier.
CCW CW CCW That's all pretty meaningless with out the polarity of the magnetic fields in relation to time.
  Im still on hold sorry you don't get the humor maybe people in your country do not place people on hold when making a phone call.

hanon

 Thanks for the link. I will revise it.

On hold? Am I missing something?

Reading your last posts:If you refer to my nick badspelling: yes, I translated the Figuera patents into english, and also I released openly three patents which were lost into the patent archives until 2012. When I started in the thread the only available patent (1908) was in spanish and Bajac, as he speaks spanish, posted his own interpretation with his idea of the split transformer with air gaps to divert the Lenz effect. I noted that to spread this device into the world it was required to translate the patents into english and promote this thread. Always it is important to access to the original text and design instead of relying on a personnal interpretation done by a forum user. Bajac posted his paper but he did not posted the patent in english. Let's say that that was not free access to the genuine info.

The War in Cuba was in 1898, and the I World War was in 1914, but Spain did not get involved in this last one. Therefore Spain as a country did not changed radically as consequence of the war. I do not know what could happen to Buforn's work in that year. He stopped paying the annual fees of his 5 patents in that year.      I do not know if you are still on hold or not.

Doug1

I was on hold an actual tech support with a question no one had ever asked before so they first had to figure out who could answer he question. I thought it was funny after all the tech support joking around.

  If you look at most images of a generator they are not a good representation of magnetic field in it's actual use. Im referencing a typical rotating generator. The field magnet is given dc to make the field magnet which is then rotated with prime mover.
  There is an amount of time required to build up a strong enough magnetic field to run the loads on the output. It's not instant. The turning magnet is steady once it reaches the amount of flux needed to power the load and the field magnet. It increases in it's strength slightly when the load increases or decreases when the load decreases. The field magnet which is rotated is an inductive element or part the same as in a motor which is subject to drag which causes slip.Where the field is moving round but the motor can not keep up exactly under the working conditions of the motor. So there is behavior or characteristic of induction when put under strain. When the rotating generator is under load how much of the magnetic field is used to induce and how much is to lock the motion together between the rotor and the stator. With a large load there should be the ability for the rotating field to slip just like it would in a motor. Implying there is a force resisting the motion which is a result of the load characteristics on the output side. So the magnetic field is amp'ed up to keep it locked together to reduce the chance of it slipping. That would increase the amount of heat built up in the field magnets core as it goes above the amount of current used to induce the current in the output winding using some of the current just to maintain the locked motion on the stator and field magnet. So at what point has any of this given any indication that the field magnets field has diminished to a level below the minimum required strength to induce. Which is a relative term, if your looking to have 5kw output the field magnet is always producing the level of field strength required for 5kw. The only thing producing the changing of the field in relation to the stator coils is it's movement as the field magnet is rotated. This movement by rotation is the only thing being removed from the normal generator. So something has to replace it and it alone. The magnetic field which was being rotated by the physical rotation of the field magnet is a separate thing from the magnetic field being used to induce an output. Your always trying to combine the two as a single property. In terms of accountability they have to kept separate so they can be adjusted to the conditions of the load. One is the work being done to apply force to make the field move the other is the field itself and the associated cost to make the field. This not my opinion its just how it works.

forest


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forest
how much poles we use in current generators? example permanent magnet generator. how much poles of each magnet we use?