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Overunity Machines Forum



Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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Doug1

Alvaro
If the induced has need of it's own core it would only be to focus the field into the center of the coil (induced) to avoid distortion effects felt by nearby fields of the other electromagnets. I spent a good bit of the last evening looking references to pole face geometries which might also help to focus the field into a more beam like pattern even millimeters of focus would be helpful to reduce scattering the field as soon as it leaves the end of the magnet. A second problem I come up against frequently is the notion of amp turns/ If more more turns yield more induced magnetisim per current but also increases more resistance due to length of wire. Why not use the desired length of wire/turns cut into the lengths of less resistance making a it multi stranded? Is it really just a question of whats easier to work with? I would hate to think world sucks just because people are lazy.I can live greed more so then lazy.
I have found a few references to that but it seams to be in early stages of study with generator applications. The focus of interest seams to be over the difficutly of the diminishing strength of a field per unit of distance and how the conductors at the greatest distance have to be adjusted in length accordingly to avoid voltage differences between conductors or strands. Not doing so tends to build up excess heat in the windings and alters the dilectric capacitance leading to shorts between turns at higher frequencies and gets worse with temperature build up. The hotter it gets the lower the frequency need be for break down.
   

ALVARO_CS

 Doug: Thanks so much for such a constructive comment. Clever analysis.


I think that the resultant output Figuera wanted was close to an AC current & Voltage, and this is  the induced result of a progressive positive input into the two opposing electromagnets.
At his time AC used in Spain was at 110 volts 50 Hz. (only hot line & neutral, NO ground)
I am also intrigued about this common negative return, "al origen" because in the drawing, it shows a third segment of lead. . . . may be it was connected to ground (earth) ??? will try it.
Remember that Spanish patent offices in 19 century were not controlled by Edison friends, and therefore there was not so strong constrictions to the "perpetuum mobile" concepts.


In my line of thinking, in this device there are not colliding magnetic fluxes, but rather a movement similar to the seesaw work done by two lumberjacks pulling alternatively, not pushing.


As I am working at a small scale (economic restrictions) and as I do not need AC 50Hz output, I am using a sharp transition between the two alternatively biased electromagnets.(via 100 ohms resistors)
Attached a pic of the commutator set up I´ll use. My main concern is now in the coils & cores geometry.
For now the comm. Is moved by a printer DC motor fed by an adjustable PC PSU (modified) which allows me to vary the frequency in a short range.
The main input is provided by a PS 12V 2A (from wifi modem)
Any suggestions are welcomed.


Doug1

Alvero
  A persons economy has little to do with anything. Resourcing materials starts with understanding what the materials are and looking for where you can get it for free.People throw away stuff all the time.Unless you live in some remote jungle there will be stuff. Its always a good idea to evaluate your local resources both free and for sale. Have you ever read on the original pancake motor? The short version best I can remember. The guy was broke, so had to come up a creative way to obtain his materials to make the stator and rotor cores. He didnt want to take money from his family's food budget so as a result of limited finances they had to shop around for good deals on food.He came across someone selling off old stocks of canned vegetables in number 10 cans at a penny each. He purchased enough cans of food to solve both problems. He used the cans to make the laminates of the cores by hand. I would like to think if he had unlimited funds he would have never bothered or he would have not done such a good job because his mind set would have been so different that he would not have cared so much or had a need to make a better motor that used less power. Lack of funds is never a downside, just a greater opportunity to show case the human spirit.
 

ALVARO_CS

 Hello Doug1
I never said or thought (nor complained) that to be broke is a limitation. I just explained why I am working at a small scale, not that I feel it as a downside.
I have indeed developed from long ago a friendship with some vehicle repair shop owners that keep for me all sort of small DC motors and other parts they discard.
The same with all the superintendents of the neighbor buildings, with discarded electrical appliances. (unbelievable the things people throw out)
"the garbage of a man is the treasure of another"
I learned well to make the most of resources as I lived with  my family for 12 years in a jungle at the Venezuela-Brasil border. (beautiful place called "La gran Sabana")
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kukenan_Tepuy_at_Sunset.jpg
In fact I am a rich man because I have many friends and . . . much time !! :D :D :D
regards
Alvaro

Doug1

That's good to hear all around. particularly that you have access to auto motive parts. A alternator stator would make a very good outer section with some mods to the teeth where the wires lay in. To turn into a quad pole structure with some teeth removed at the desired gaps to wire it up as a quad /4 pole. Then you only have to build the internal section to mirror the stator section. The voltage regulator will come in handy.
  I didn't think you were complaining sorry if I came off that way. I was just thinking of how many times the easiest route leaves a person hanging high and dry with lots of money spent but no results. Plenty of people don't even try because they think you have to spend 50k on equipment. The best proof of all that something works is getting off the grid.